[inthetallgrass]

I have a 9-inch......................................................Silencer...oh sorry suppressor. With the UTG/TSD/Well/Others L96 the cylinder volume is only about the size of a 500mm barrel so with the 650mm barrel in your gun will be a lot less accurate the a 450mm-500mm barrel as there isn't enough air to keep the bb cushioned. Look it up yourself as I don't want to go through about ten posts explaining it.

 

[inthetallgrass]

Never go over 500mm unless you have some un-earthly cylinder or you have a real-sword SVD which has a modified gearbox and cylinder to accommodate the huge barrel.

 

[inthetallgrass]

I guess so, except I will see what happens when the hop up is delivered this week.

Sell it as new on ebay or a forum to some noob and then buy a 500mm/455mm one.

 

[inthetallgrass]

Installed the PDI Hop-Up and the 650mm 6.03 about 2 hours ago... no problems whatsoever

The grouping is amazing, the gun is whisper quiet, and it is shooting really hard with just the stock spring in. I have been tinkering with the hop-up for the past hour and I think I almost have it

I don't have finals tomorrow so I am staying home and I should be able to get it shooting perfectly.

You think those groupings are good now? Put in a 500mm barrel and be blown away. Also I am wondering, how is your gun whisper quiet? What modifications did you do to make it like this? Because I remember my l96 being very loud until I modded it myself. Guide below. Also the stock spring is at 450fps so it was already shooting hard.

Also as already said a longer barrel does not make it more accurate.

I am not being a dick I am just pointing out what I feel is coming across from you and questioning it.

 

[inthetallgrass]

Installed the PDI Hop-Up and the 650mm 6.03 about 2 hours ago... no problems whatsoever

The grouping is amazing, the gun is whisper quiet, and it is shooting really hard with just the stock spring in. I have been tinkering with the hop-up for the past hour and I think I almost have it

I don't have finals tomorrow so I am staying home and I should be able to get it shooting perfectly.

Yeah, my gun shoots lightning bolts.

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Haha, I'm sure you're exaggerating a wee bit. When I've put in a stronger spring, usually the gun is pretty loud. You can really start to hear the piston head slam and the air "crack" out of the barrel. What mods have you did to make it quiet?

Also, usually when you get a longer barrel, it hurts accuracy more than helps. I've explained this before. It's always nice to be proven wrong though... I'd love to see a side by side comparison. You'll need some evidence to say that your groupings are "amazing". Got a target?

And isn't the stock spring like 450 fps? Or was it pre-upgraded, as I thought before? That isn't that hard, silly :

AWAGG!!

" title="" border="0"/> You just basically said exactly what I said but you re-worded it! Lol. At least it's two against one. I agree with myself and Awagg.

EDIT: yay 301st post.

 

[inthetallgrass]

IF YOU HAVE A STOCK (What came with the gun) TRIGGER BOX DO NOT PUT AN M170 SPRING INTO YOUR GUN. Also your 14 you'll barely be able to pull it. FPS is not everything, in-fact it is over-rated in terms of accuracy. Also a Scar silencer must look horrendous on an L96. It is called a poof noise btw not an "Air" noise. and it usually only changes the tone of the noise it doesn't "Silence" it.
Look - There is a full guide in what you should upgrade with your gun. The internals etc. It should be pinned in the others section. Also Then there are other guides such a my one on how to silence your gun. Post pictures of your gun in the gallery. I want to see how ugly the scar silencer is on the gun. I have a 9 inch wisha one on mine. It is like an enlarged p90 silencer.

 

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IF YOU HAVE A STOCK (What came with the gun) TRIGGER BOX DO NOT PUT AN M170 SPRING INTO YOUR GUN. Also your 14 you'll barely be able to pull it. FPS is not everything, in-fact it is over-rated in terms of accuracy. Also a Scar silencer must look horrendous on an L96. It is called a poof noise btw not an "Air" noise. and it usually only changes the tone of the noise it doesn't "Silence" it.
Look - There is a full guide in what you should upgrade with your gun. The internals etc. It should be pinned in the others section. Also Then there are other guides such a my one on how to silence your gun. Post pictures of your gun in the gallery. I want to see how ugly the scar silencer is on the gun. I have a 9 inch wisha one on mine. It is like an enlarged p90 silencer.

I never said it was a Scar-type silencer, it's a normal cylinder shaped suppressor, nothing special. I could take some pictures if you actually want to see my gun. And besides I put an M170 in my gun before ANYTHING but the stuff inside the cylinder was upgraded (it worked great). My trigger box is VERY close to breaking but a V-Trigger is getting here tomorrow. I do have a stock, M140, M150, M170, and an M190. Which one do you guys think would be the best one to put in after I get the trigger.

My normal engagement range is probably 150-200ft.

P. S. - Not able to pull it back? Yeah okay.

Just take note of this. Don't be ignorant and listen to the people trying to HELP you. If you order another barrel longer is NOT better. No more then 500mm.

If you want to break a stock trigger unit go ahead and upgrade the spring.

If you want a practical cocking that won't eventually break all stock and even some after market bits such as the piston. Go ahead and put in a m190. - BTW I am a 6'2" guy who does boxing, walking, surfing, sailing, canoeing and airsofting. If I am saying it is an impractical cocking at anything but a standing position then it is.

If you really want to use an m170 or above don't use .3g use .43g madbulls. Don't cheap out as a lot of .43g bb's are crap.

Also since you said you got it off a scar I assumed that it was a Scar silencer.

Also with an m190 spring the handle etc. at the back might even be worn.

Lastly the Memory foam only suppresses it to a certain extent. As does the washers in the silencer. For the whisper quiet you were describing you would wan't a gun like mine. With a cut spring. And before anyone asks. THIS LOWERS FPS.

I am not being rude but I am merely telling you to listen to reason when it is given to you by the more experienced players. And most 14 year-olds would struggle with an M190, even standing.

 

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Well I am listening to you guys, but you are telling me the same thing over and over again. And you're SURE I shouldn't order a 510mm barrel? The stock barrel in my gun is 515, so that would be a little shorter... is that still no good?

And I know that the M170 was breaking my trigger box, so I opened it up and my dad is experienced with fixing air soft guns so he reinforced it so it would just hold in with the stock spring. And yes he told me that I am going to need to put in the V-Trigger if I want to use anything more powerful, because this one is a goner.

By the way, the M190 was a little tough in the beginning : But I took it out after two days because I didn't even like the results.

Prone = no chance
Crouch = a bit tough
Standing= easier as it progressed

BTW... doesn't the head mod play with a 650mm? Uh... Livonia?

510 would be usable. I'd use one. Not the absolute best though. 480mm to me would be the sweet spot. Also the reason why the spring is getting easier is because it loosens. Like, with my spring I can get 10 rounds down range in ten seconds easily. I know speed is not much when sniping I am just saying a slow recycle rate and the fact that the gun is usually left cocked for a few minutes does weaken things like the sears.

So yeah get a 510mm and sell that 650mm one quick. The only way you could use a 650mm barrel without loosing accuracy is by getting a bore up and maybe a bigger cylinder. The Real Sword SVD uses one that big but it has a specially modified gearbox to combat that.

EDIT: The reason why we are saying the same things to you over again is because you keep asking the same things or making the same mistakes that we already pointed out. Lol. Look back.

 

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EDIT: The reason why we are saying the same things to you over again is because you keep asking the same things or making the same mistakes that we already pointed out. Lol. Look back.

Oh, my bad

Hahaha yeah so I guess I will buy the 510 or maybe even 500 today with the new trigger.

No bother. Just remember to try and keep under 510. I Have a 445mm madbull barrel in mine.

 

[inthetallgrass]

Your gun STOCK would shoot more accurate with a 500mm if it wasn't designed to use anything above.

 

[inthetallgrass]

Hmm... Sounds like you have some major spring degradation. I'm 15, and there is no way I can pull an m190. I'd have to see that to believe it. I'm not what you'd call weak either.

Point One: YES do not order a 510. If you really want to test, get a shorter barrel, like 450-500mm.

Point Two: 45* sears can't hold an m190. The piston will slip off and scar the cylinder. I really, really doubt this claim.

Thank you some more sense from my dear friend Awagg to sort out the BS. I am 16 and do boxing. I can pull a 100 pound bow easily to my cheek and still find it quite hard to pull anything around that power. You are 14.....so yeah. Also thanks awagg I didn't think of mentioning the sears (More in-depth that is)

 

[inthetallgrass]

Also, I really doubt that your dad could just "BAM, reinforced the sears" like that. What techniques does he use? He would have to have some gnarly equipment, like a carbidizer, or a heat treater? What are his techniques? Cause right now, this sounds like a heap load of BS.

And yes, the sears could never ever hold an m190. Even if he miraculously made them super strong, because we all know any ol' "airsoft gun tech" can do that, the 45* sear would slip and scar your cylinder, and slam fire. My BS radar is going crazy right now.

Pwned' - That is all.

 

[inthetallgrass]

Come on. Fuzzy said no posting unless it's got to do with the topic. And as I said I am 16 and do boxing and I say the m190 is a hard pull. Too hard for a 14 year old in my opinion. That is off topic though.

SO do you need any help?