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I was wondering if a HPA rig would be better than a spring sniper. I am trying to decide whether to upgrade my spring sniper or get the KJW R700 and get a HPA rig with some other upgrades. Which one would give me better constituency in year round conditions and give me better range. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
 

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From my experience in the sniper world right now, expect to spend alot of money for both. About 600 to 1000, depending on the springer you have. Also I think you mean a KJW M700 the only R700 I know of is made by Socom gear and that's a springer. To convert to HPA my friend spent about 500 on his HPA conversion on his MK16, but there was a lot more work in that one. Ether way im sure everyone here will help you if you have problems with ether.
 

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There is a video game that calls the M700 an R700 ;) So we have a gamer on our hands that wants to be super leet.....


What kind of rifle do you have?
What up grades are you planning on getting?
What type of experience do you have?

Like hidden said, it all depends on what you want to do, and what company you want to buy parts from.

I have well over a grand in my L96. Between parts and everything it is really easy to go above that if you want. It is also really easy to spend very little but have an awesome rifle.
 

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$50 for a small tank
$100-200 for an air rig
$50 air fittings and tap

Air rigs are great for many things if your are into gas replicas or more specifically, classic airsoft. I consider it like owning a nice battery charger. Once you have gone external air you'll be able to see a huge increase in performance but KJW, like Tanakas have a complicated magazine that costs a ton to upgrade. I prefer the ARES over both but I do believe their is a clone of the ARES too. Springs are great if you are into them, gas replicas have a faster and more realistic bolt cycle. Compare external air costs to springer upgrades, ie zero trigger, spring, spring guide and whatever else you need. They are comparable in price, with springer upgrades leading slightly more in cost.

If this is your first airsoft replica, you should get an AEG and go from there. Sorry to burst your bubble but you are not the first with visions of grandeur. In reality sniping kinda sucks if you want to move around alot or are slightly impatient. Sniping takes discipline and even more skill. Actually let me reemphasize that. Sniping is 75% skill which is acquired though practice. Upgrades help a lot and even a crappy kid with an awesome gun can rock on a good day but their is absolutely no substitute for skill.
 

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I think i am going to go with the KJW m700 with an external HPA rig. The only thing i am having trouble finding is the regulator. Also does anybody knows where i could buy a regulator that has an operating pressure of at least 50 psi.
 

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The hole point of a regulator is so you can adjust the air flow to what you want. I think you should really look in to what you want, and are doing before you buy anything.
 

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SEACH!!!!

Make an entry post....

Try and do some of the work for yoursefl man.... If you really want to play this role you need to learn how to look and do things for yourself. We are here to HELP you not give you all of the answers straigt up.

There are a few posts already on this subject, in case to the regs, and air rigs.

If you can't find the parts and don't know how things work with this rifle, it is only going to make you mad and turn you away from the sport. You sound like a kid that has been playing to much MOH or COD. So please PLEASE do some research.

If you do plan to do this route, plan to spend up to $700-$1000 + on the kit.
You are planning on getting the KJW M700.... ok good choice.
What up grades?
...... What inner barrel?
...... What bucking?
...... What type of air rig, as in the parts you are getting?
...... Do you have access to fill an HPA tank?
...... Are you planing on getting extra mags? and if so which ones?
...... Are you planning on putting any upgrades into the mags?
...... Upgrading the bolt?
...... What scope?
...... What type of HPA container are you planning on getting?
...... What ammo do you plan on using, going to go through a lot to find the right one.

Do you see where I am going with this? I am not trying to be a douche, but again it sounds like you haven't thought this out, and are not ready for what it all includes.
 

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dam woogie you dont need to be such a douche. I just wasnt looking in the right place. I just couldn't find the right regulator that i needed and I looked everywhere on the internet for like 4 hours. I know what upgrades i am going to get and everything else i just couldn't find the right regulator. I am also defiantly not a kid who plays to much cod or any other stupid video game. I really respected you and what you had to say but know i just think you are douche.
 

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palmer purists 200psi female stabilizer/regulator. screws right on to your bottle. You'll want a 200 psi guage and some fittings too.

Watch you mouth, you don't to burn bridges here. Woogie is a very active and helpful member amongst many.
 

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thank you very much for the information i really appreciate it. I know that woogie is very helpful i have saw a lot of things he posted and all of them were very helpful and i really appreciate people like him giving out information like that. Its just that when woogie said

''Try and do some of the work for yourself man.... If you really want to play this role you need to learn how to look and do things for yourself, You sound like a kid that has been playing to much MOH or COD. So please PLEASE do some research, but again it sounds like you haven't thought this out, and are not ready for what it all includes"

that really pissed me off because i had spent a couple of days finding everything i needed. I just couldn't find the regulator ( thank you mateba for helping me out) I really appreciate woogie for helping everybody out but when he said that, i just lost a lot of respect for the guy. I don't hate him and i still value his opinion but just not as much as i would of.
 

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This is a subject that has been discussed before. Thus the reason for the search.

And you have said that you have done no looking on the subject.
You have yet to follow the rules of the forum.
We have no idea what your background is or what you are able to do.
We don't know if you are a 12 year old kid or a 35 year old adult.
We don't have any clue of your airsoft playing, or what not..

The last ones would have been easy to do if you followed the second one.

When we get alot of people on this forum that play video games and only want to mimic the game. This was pointed out when you called a Remington M700 an R700, this is what alot of modern games call the same rifle ;)

But again please do some searching on the forums, and others because I know for a fact it has been posted on ASR and ASF so many times it is stickied.

And post an intro post here on the forum, and then we can go from there.




Thanks Meteba and Hidden.
 

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sorry about calling you a douche i understand how you could of saw me as a 12 year old ( i hit the wrong key on the key board when tying M700). I didnt think to look in other for the KJW M700 ( I found it now) and i will make sure to make an inro post. Again sorry about calling you a douche.
 

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No problem man.... atleast you had the right mind to say sorry for it.... A lot of people wouldn't.
Woogie is right. We have had alot of people come on here and be criticized about something and totally freak out. Rant posts, cursing, etc. etc. This either led to a ban or simply not coming back to the forum. The fact that you understand your mistake now earns you a +1. ;) Just remember, we are all here to help eachother. We have no intentions to embarrass or poke fun at new members.
 

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See we aren't so bad here


I was at drill when I wrote that and found out some bad news, so I wasn't in the best mood to start with, so I am sorry for that. But like fuzzy said, when you get a ton of people that just want the answer for there question, or what us to do all the work for them.... It really get annoying fast.

Take a look over at the Ninja products. You can get a 13ci tank with a reg for around $80. They are really nice. To adjust you just add or remove shims in the unit, so you can't adjust on the field. And once it is set it is set. Then all you would need would be a second reg to fine tune the pressure.
 

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I hate to go against the grain here, but don't get the KJW M700. If you are really active in airsoft, it would be wise to invest into a Tanaka. They are known, atleast where I'm from, to be much better in performance and reliability than Ares and KJW's. Of course though, if you just want something fun to play with, by all means, get the KJW.
 

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Why??

If you plan on upgrading the rifle anyway, why not start with a cheaper rifle, and one that already can take VSR barrels?

Save some money and get the KJ, nothing wrong with them.
 

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Just to throw in my two cents, I've been thinking about building an HPA rifle, and from what I've read the Tanaka vs KJW is a 50-50 thing it seems. Some say the KJW hop up is terrible, others say its fine. XavierMace on airsoftretreat.com will be comparing a group of gas rifles to compare- info here-->http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=78565.1075 (sixth post down from the top)
Also, with the ninja tank, it only regulates down to 450 if its the one I've seen
http://www.ansgear.com/Ninja_Aluminum_Air_Tank_w_Adjustable_Reg_13_3000_p/ninjatank-13.htm
which is WAAAY too high for those mags, if you go that high your gonna get metal shrapnel. You need a regulator that is able to go under two hundred to operate at a safe level. If your planning to keep the full length barrel then you don't even need a hundred to get to a high fps I believe, although I'm not entirely sure, but I've heard of getting 550 with 40psi.
 

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The 450psi will get you down to a workable pressure. You then get a secondary rig to get it fine tuned.

With the ninja tanks you can get a shim kit. When used you can get the pressure down alot more.
 
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