Improving my Echo 1 ASR
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Copied and pasted the following stating why you should not get the crummy echo 1, utg, or well l96 upgrade kits.
For barrel, like said above, I recommend a prommy 6.03. Although, I believe woogie had a (emphasis on the had :'( ) madbull in his l96, and had good results. There are various options out there for you.
In addition to the PDI hop up chamber and aeg barrel, you are going to need an aeg bucking. I recommend a soft one such as a G&G, guarder, or systema.I wrote this up a few weeks ago on another forum. Apologies if it comes off alittle harsh. The member that asked the same question was giving me some mouth. :Anyways, if something sounds like I am answering a question you did not ask, don't be confused, I just copied and pasted this on here for you.
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Well, the kit is useless in my opinion. It offers a spring upgrade that will only damage your rifle. Think about it. The only durability upgrades in this package are a new spring guide and a piston. What about the trigger box? I have seen people put this kit in, and it simply just destroys the trigger box, leaving the user with the options of either buying a new trigger box (cost around $100 to $200) or to ditch the gun and buy a new rifle.
If you are set on upgrading your fps, then you need to buy some durability upgrades. Parts from laylax, pdi, or OK will be well worth the money. I always tell people this: Do not upgrade the spring until you upgrade for durability. Here is a list:
1. cylinder head
2. spring guide
3. piston
4. trigger unit or new sears
Buy those and then upgrade the spring. I recommend a PDI spring or a laylax one. The spring in the kit you have listed will wear down, and it will do so quickly (results in lower fps output). Its not made to as high of a standard. Think about it. A laylax piston costs around $45 and this kit you have listed comes in a package for $35. You get what you pay for, and replacing crappy plastic parts with a few pieces of pot metal along with a spring way too powerful for the rifle is just going to cause you problems.
Thats my 2 cents.
Edit: And if you find yourself not able to afford all the durability upgrades at one time you need to have patience. Slowly work your way up, purchasing piece by piece. Once you get those upgrades in the rifle, then you can upgrade the spring. But do not jump the gun. If you do, you will be stuck with a rifle that is broken, and you will have to buy numerous parts at once just to get your rifle back up and running.
For barrel, like said above, I recommend a prommy 6.03. Although, I believe woogie had a (emphasis on the had :'( ) madbull in his l96, and had good results. There are various options out there for you.
Hey man Good to see another ASR owner on here.
Weve had plenty of ASR upgrade threads lately, so you can find a ton of data on what works and so forth.
Ive got an ASR that Ive put about 2000 - 2500 rounds through and Ive encountered and conqured quite a few problems.
So yes, your right on track so far.
With the basic upgrade kit, you should be shooting about 540fps when your done. The PDI chamber is a must as the factory hop up seems to fracture under the pressure and abuse of the upgrade kit. The madbull 6.03 is a good barrel.
Currently with the same parts your talking about putting in, im shooting 240ft hitting man sizes targets 6/10. My FPS is 540 and Im useing a .30g Madbull white bb.
Hope that helps.
And you have to be carefull about what advise you take about your ASR. There are an incredible number of people who have never even handled one, but will tell you all about what you should or shouldnt do.
All in all, the ASR is a nice mid range sniper rifle, that is fairly in expensive. It will never be one of those 300ft 10inch accurate guns. But then again, those guns cost about 1300$ too.
Weve had plenty of ASR upgrade threads lately, so you can find a ton of data on what works and so forth.
Ive got an ASR that Ive put about 2000 - 2500 rounds through and Ive encountered and conqured quite a few problems.
So yes, your right on track so far.
With the basic upgrade kit, you should be shooting about 540fps when your done. The PDI chamber is a must as the factory hop up seems to fracture under the pressure and abuse of the upgrade kit. The madbull 6.03 is a good barrel.
Currently with the same parts your talking about putting in, im shooting 240ft hitting man sizes targets 6/10. My FPS is 540 and Im useing a .30g Madbull white bb.
Hope that helps.
And you have to be carefull about what advise you take about your ASR. There are an incredible number of people who have never even handled one, but will tell you all about what you should or shouldnt do.
All in all, the ASR is a nice mid range sniper rifle, that is fairly in expensive. It will never be one of those 300ft 10inch accurate guns. But then again, those guns cost about 1300$ too.
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Ha. I recently got an ASR as well, but upgrades have to wait until I raise sufficient cash. I got a WELL, and the hop rubber is defective, but that was first to go anyway.
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Thats no biggie really. The ASR is very simple to upgrade actually. The PDI can be a bugger to get going, and I had a real tough time getting my barrel into the PDI. But once it was all together, all was well.dylan484 said:
Take a look around here, and you will find lots of info on the ASR.
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Hey Dylan, glad to see someone rocking the ASR I was in your same position some time back before I purchased my baby. The same thoughts were running through my head but as Ronin said, there are many people who have put the time already to tell us, the public, what to put in our guns I have an ASR with a tight bore, upgrade kit, some seal upgrades, reinforced sears, and that's really it, I shoot .40 mad bull sniper bbs and hit a human sized target at around 275 feet 6/10 shots. This rifle can be outstanding, in many ways, but it may tug and pull with you. If you stick with it you wont be disappointed good luck! - sparrow
I was in your same position some time back before I purchased my baby. The same thoughts were running through my head but as Ronin said, there are many people who have put the time already to tell us, the public, what to put in our guns I have an ASR with a tight bore, upgrade kit, some seal upgrades, reinforced sears, and that's really it, I shoot .40 mad bull sniper bbs and hit a human sized target at around 275 feet 6/10 shots. This rifle can be outstanding, in many ways, but it may tug and pull with you. If you stick with it you wont be disappointed good luck! - sparrow
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You could start by using proper grammar.dylan484 said:
As far as the trigger box goes, I would upgrade the sears or replace the trigger box entirely. I am not sure about compatibility so I will leave that up to the guys on here who have had experience with this rifle.
Ya see, thats just it. I havent seen or heard of a replacement or a reinforcement option for the ASR. So Im wondering what Sparrow did or purchased to make his trigger assembly reinforced.
However he hasnt answered me in this thread or his Gallery thread. So I dont know.
However he hasnt answered me in this thread or his Gallery thread. So I dont know.
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