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Me and my friends were chatting about making a CQB Sniper Rifle.

Now, you're probably thinking "How stupid are you Hoggie". Well, the FPS Limit in Michigan is 350 FPS for CQB. Now, as you may know, you couldn't snipe if you dreamed of it. But, I've been thinking about this.

Basically, the build would be a ~340 FPS Spring
450mm Tightbore (Depends on guns build, of course)
Hop-up Unit could stay the same
Laylax Piston+Spring Guide
.25g BB's
Red Dot Sight/ACOG Sight


The concept is kind of shakey to me, of course. I think still the APS-2 would be a good choice because the stock can shorten up.

Now, the best part about this is that you'd have a lot of range for the gun. I understand CQB is suppose to be fast paced, but, in any urban situation, the sniper is not "feeble".
There is two flanks, in which are hallways, and people can bunker up, or completely run through to flank. The sniper could be sitting in a corner, where he can shoot across the area, aswell and sniping the people who come down the hallway. Now, the way I see this, this could be so efficent.
Where I play, we also have outdoors. This could be the holy grail of the CQB Sniper. You could SHRED the field as you can shoot basically across it.

Now, what would be the be the pros to doing this instead of running and gunning with your 350 FPS AEG? You could take much longer shots, be more accurate, be extremely unique to the whole CQB scence, it's cheaper BB wise (Not that they cost THAT much anyway.) and the biggest one, you don't have to risk it when you are playing and risk getting out. You could get some distance and the person, and since they are more than likely using .2, They probably won't have that great of range, meaning it's basically you free shot + kill if you hit.

Recap: In action, you'd have to know what you were doing, aswell and have a good shot. You wouldn't even have to buy a new gun, and I'm seriously thinking about trying this out at our local CQB place. It's a concept and a theoritical possible.

Let me know what you guys think. It seems like it COULD work, but hey, who knows.
 

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Interesting thought. I had an idea a while back to make a DMR out of a KMP9 ( I guess it would be a DMSMG
). The whole idea was to create a suppressor that had a barrel extension inside of it that met flush with the barrel in the KMP9. With gas guns the length of the barrel increases FPS because the gas has more time to expand. We did some rough math and found out that extending the barrel by just over twice its length would take the 380 FPS to about 450, and maybe more. Imagine being able to run around in CQB with an SMG like that, then pop on a suppressor and make the long shots.

That is a crazy idea, but if I could pull it off would be totally unique.
 

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I would say if you have the funds to try it whey the heck not? That's how some of my best guns have been created like my recent DMR. I had a bunch of parts and said "I wonder if this will work?" It took some time and effort, but in the end worked out amazing!

I like the idea. For me it wouldn't be practical because I play on fields that are designed to be like streets in Iraq. This means some CQB and some long shots. I find that my pistol works fine for the small amounts of CQB that I do and it allows me to take the long shots, but for the field you are describing it sounds like your idea might work well.

The only drawback is going to be your rate of fire. But if you are going for the ability to truly play like a sniper in CQB, then it sounds like a fun challenge!
 

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I have done exactly what you are talking about man ;)

I did my first CQB sniper rifle with a UTG 324, and a ton of DIY mods. I only spent what the base rifle was sold for. With this rifle I was able to hold off EVERYONE. We were playing in an old school, that isn't used anymore. So there is no power or anything in the school, so it is like playing at night. The only light you have is from the partially covered windows.

So if you have a deadly accurate rifle, and are able to make it near silent then you have it made. With my set up I used a red dot with my buddies NVG. I couldn't miss and really ticked off everyone.

Another thing to remember when you trying to snipe in a CQB area is placement. You need to think about 10 steps ahead of everyone else, because if you set up in a bad spot...... you are going to come out of the game looking like you have chicken poxs.


Go with any good rifle you can find. I would get a clone, because you are going to chop everything up and change just about everything about the rifle. I would go a Bar10 or even one of the Echo1 ASR rifles.

Find a piston with a good air brake on it, or make one using Vidi's guide. Get a nice barrel, and a great hop up. The good thing with the fps being so low, is that you generally don't need a better trigger mech, so that saves a ton of money!

As far as a sight I would go with a basic red dot, or something similar. Or just get a nice set of open sights and run with that. You are going to need faster target spotting, and with an optic that can get hard.

If you want hit me up in pm and I may be able to make you something ;)
 

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Its an interesting concept and By Woogie a followed out Idea. It's definitely do-able but maybe just go with a DMR? Oh no wait ye have higher limits so your DMR would be set up for outside. Then as woogie said get an air brake or follow my silencing guide in the others section and it will be super quiet. I mean you won't hear it 25ft away.
 

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Here's my take, VSR G-Spec, make a built in foam suppresser which is legal because it is integrated. Use a Short-stroke cylinder head for s shorter bult pull and can help balance the volume. A TK twist is optional for accuracy if you want to stay below 1J. Add your choice of sight and tour good to go.
 

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metallicafatcat said:
Here's my take, VSR G-Spec, make a built in foam suppresser which is legal because it is integrated. Use a Short-stroke cylinder head for s shorter bult pull and can help balance the volume. A TK twist is optional for accuracy if you want to stay below 1J. Add your choice of sight and tour good to go.
Damn! you beat me to the TK barrel!

On top of that, add a nice bucking and a concave hop-up spacer (SCS or the PCS) and a 1J spring
 
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