[BlueReaper46]

I have been looking at Spring Type 96's to upgrade, but the problem is that most of them look like this:

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=2119

where the mag is half way up the body, I would really prefer one like this:

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=6052

where the mag is in the correct spot, but I have heard and read that that particular rifle is difficult to upgrade. My budget is $300 or so on the gun, and I would like it full metal, is anyone knows of one like this it would be greatly appreciated, I will continue to look myself, but I mostly only find TM ones like that, and do not know what is easier to upgrade(when i say easier I mean finding parts for it)

Thanks, Bluereaper46

 

[rcon112]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe even the real l96 is Poly body....

 

[BlueReaper46]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe even the real l96 is Poly body....

I really dont know, but i like the feel of a solid piece of metal, I hate plastic, even if its solid plastic.

 

[~Ranger~]

Most modern real guns are becoming plastic. The real G36 is, the L96 is, and much more.

 

[exomatt]

Yeah, the stock on a real-steel L96 is polymer. You could possibly talk to cheese, as I think he had a custom stock for his L96 (although it was gas, I believe).

 

[TYSONtheSNIPER]

The only other option I can think of is the ARES, although it's out of your set budget. It is however spring powered, magazine in the correct place and apparently takes vsr parts (although its still an ares, so something important has to be proprietary).

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Sniper_Rifles_ARES_ARES_AW_338_Spring_Power_BK.htm

If however you decide to take the TM route, I'm pretty sure these parts work in it.
http://www.Airsoftatlanta.com/Tokyo_Marui_L96_AWS_airsoft_parts_s/270.htm

 

[BlueReaper46]

The only other option I can think of is the ARES, although it's out of your set budget. It is however spring powered, magazine in the correct place and apparently takes vsr parts (although its still an ares, so something important has to be proprietary).

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Sniper_Rifles_ARES_ARES_AW_338_Spring_Power_BK.htm

If however you decide to take the TM route, I'm pretty sure these parts work in it.
http://www.Airsoftatlanta.com/Tokyo_Marui_L96_AWS_airsoft_parts_s/270.htm

that ARES says its VSR compatible, but then it states that you can use the VSR hop up, is it compatible with all VSR internal upgrades? That would be great if it was...

 

[TYSONtheSNIPER]

I'm really not sure. The fact that it is an ARES leads me to believe that somewhere in the gun your going to have something that's proprietary and my guess It's going to be something important. If I where you, I'd do a bit of researching on the gun itself and find a definate answer one all that is truly vsr compatible. I'll do some looking myself and if I find something I'll let you know.

If not though you should probably consider the Tokyo Marui. I believe it will be a better overall gun.

 

[zero]

Ares is a waste of time buddy. I have a real steel Accuracy International gun and ALL gun stocks are made from polymer. Lets list, Bell and Carson M40A3 - polymer stock, AI type 96 - polymer stock, Remington model 700 series - polymer stock etc etc etc. If you REALLY want that metal you're looking for then I'd suggest the Barrett M82A1. I personally doubt you will be able to carry that all day, plus the replicas on the airsoft market are mainly poop.
However not all is lost yet. You have happened to come across the Tokyo Marui MK96 :tup: First off the magazine is in the CORRECT place, like you stated. The stock is made from better quality polymers than the more common UTG/Well. The Tokyo Marui MK96 also uses the very well known, tried and tested APS2 system, which the UTG/Well MK96 do too. APS2 parts are as much available as VSR parts, and the Tokyo Marui MK96 is easily upgradable!!!!! It's also not very hard to learn the insides of this gun and parts that work with it and well with it, just search this forum, it's what we're here for!

Good luck buddy. :cheers:

Zero

 

[TYSONtheSNIPER]

Did some research on the ARES and as I expected its not looking good. From what I read it has a vsr "style" hopup. What that means is that a lot of it will still be proprietary (such as the chamber itself). t seems like most of the stuff was vsr "style" so that means to me that ARES is just making it look similar to a vsr, but vsr parts won't actually work.

Long story short, I strongly suggest you take the TM. I even read comparisons of the two and the TM was the better gun by a long shot. More upgradeable, better performer in its stock form, and the base gun is cheaper.

From the start I didn't like the idea of the ARES, but its the only other spring gun that is the l96 style and has the correct mag position.

 

[BlueReaper46]

so the TM is APS2 compatible? I was led to believe it was not. I will look into that gun more however, thanks!

 

[TYSONtheSNIPER]

I was under the impression that the TM took parts kinda like the vsr, the stuff I linked earlier.

 

[zero]

so the TM is APS2 compatible? I was led to believe it was not. I will look into that gun more however, thanks!

Correct, the TM is fully APS2 compatible

Zero

 

[goldentrigun]

When you search for parts just look for ones that say compatible with l96aws. That is the easiest method to find out what parts are compatible.

http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/Tokyo_Marui_L96_AWS_airsoft_parts_s/270.htm
All of those parts will fit the TM l96.

I wouldn't say that it is aps2 though... otherwise there wouldn't be a need for the distinction.

 

[BlueReaper46]

This is my list of parts so far, though there are a few items missing which I am having trouble finding.

Tokyo Marui Full Metal MK96-$309.00($271.92)

Laylax Teflon Cylinder-$125.00

Laylax Damper Cylinder Head-$22.00

Laylax High Pressure Piston-$48.00

PDI L96 AWS V-Trigger-$189.99

Total so far= $656.91

I am having difficulty finding:
6.03mm Barrel
9mm Spring Guide
Trigger and Piston Sears
Spring(looking for 500-600 FPS Spring)

Now the Hop-up, is the stock one good enough that I could use it and just replace the Bucking and Nubbing? Also what does the R-Hop take the place of, if anything?(I have heard it replaces the nubbing but I want to confirm)

 

[goldentrigun]

The teflon cylinder comes with a cylinder head so you dont need to buy another.
If you buy the v trigger you will not need to buy sears.
the spring guide should be on airsoft atlanta.
6.03 barrels can be found anywhere. I would say go with Prometheus or PDI if you have the spare cash. Also I would suggest some barrel spacers although you can make them if you don't want to spend the extra coin.

http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/PDI_L96_AWS_Spring_Guide_p/64030.htm
^It should be 9mm.

 

[BlueReaper46]

The teflon cylinder comes with a cylinder head so you dont need to buy another.
If you buy the v trigger you will not need to buy sears.
the spring guide should be on airsoft atlanta.
6.03 barrels can be found anywhere. I would say go with Prometheus or PDI if you have the spare cash. Also I would suggest some barrel spacers although you can make them if you don't want to spend the extra coin.

http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/PDI_L96_AWS_Spring_Guide_p/64030.htm
^It should be 9mm.

Alright thanks! So now I need to find a barrel(I think its 500mm?) and I need to know if i need to get a new hop-up, or just bucking and what nots... And a spring...

 

[rcon112]

I would suggest a new hop up. Primarily the PDI hop-up very good if you can afford it.
http://www.airsoftoutletnw.com/inde...oduct_id=3749&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

 

[goldentrigun]

The stock AWS hop up does fine the way it is. I dont really think it needs upgrading any further then it already is other then possibly a ER hop in the future. The stock gun shoots straight as an arrow and the added FPS will increase the range of heavier bbs. I would hold off on your decision for the hop up until you actually shoot the thing.

I suggest a PDI brand spring, but obviously make sure it matches the spring guide diameter though.

http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/Laylax_L96_AWS_500mm_Tightbore_Barrel_p/59001.htm
^I'm not sure the ID of that barrel, but it does fit the gun and is of quality.

 

[BlueReaper46]

The stock AWS hop up does fine the way it is. I dont really think it needs upgrading any further then it already is other then possibly a ER hop in the future. The stock gun shoots straight as an arrow and the added FPS will increase the range of heavier bbs. I would hold off on your decision for the hop up until you actually shoot the thing.

I suggest a PDI brand spring, but obviously make sure it matches the spring guide diameter though.

http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/Laylax_L96_AWS_500mm_Tightbore_Barrel_p/59001.htm
^I'm not sure the ID of that barrel, but it does fit the gun and is of quality.

Tightbore leads me to believe 6.01mm, though i would prefer a 6.03, I will keep looking. The springs on AA say they fit the AWS but I have seen several threads that say they need cutting. I will probably upgrade the hop up eventually, but for now just an ER-Hop(id would prefer an IER, unless ill see a decrease in performance when it is warm, I live in PA so the summers are warm, and the winters are cold most of the time). is there anything else in the hop i should look at replacing or getting a spare for?

EDIT: that hop up you linked is for the Maruzen type 96, and is not compatible with the TM L96 AWS