[boxcuta]

Hello all again. So I will be ordering the rifle next Friday. I have decided to start by pick up a few upgrades. My long term goals are as follows.

1: A rifle that shoots 100 yards consistently.

2: HPA rig.

3: Building it up for peak reliability.

From what I understand the rifle takes AEG tight bores, and hop-ups. I would like some feed back on what you guys think is the best made tight bore 6.03mm, and the best hop-up unit. I will be placing a order for parts and BBs today or tomorrow.

Thanks again for you help.

 

[metallicafatcat]

Your best bet would be a 6.05mm PDI TBB in the length necessary. As for hop ups, IDK which one it uses, though please do keep us updated, because I have heard bad things about the ARES gas rifles. I think you should assemble the HPA rig first so atleast you have consistency when aiming for you goals.

 

[hidden187]

Your best bet would be a 6.05mm PDI TBB in the length necessary. As for hop ups, IDK which one it uses, though please do keep us updated, because I have heard bad things about the ARES gas rifles. I think you should assemble the HPA rig first so atleast you have consistency when aiming for you goals.

I think he should go for the TBB first, because it would be like trowing a 300% spring in a bar 10 with out upgrading anything else. His shots would be all over the place, also I would go with a 6.01 or a .03 from EDGI it will save you alot of money in the long run, and you will need it if you want a constant shot at that range.

As for the HPA, I know it is not necessary, but you should buy a spare mag just in case something happens to your rig, you still have a mag to use( use propane you get better FPS for your non HPA mag).

For reliability, o-rings, o-rings, o-rings. I was able to get, the o-rings from my paintball gun to work in my S&W40F, they might be able to fit in the rifle. I think Redwolf has upgrade parts not sure if they are in stock though.

 

[boxcuta]

So far I am looking at this barrel, it's this or a Madbull. I have heard Promies are better.

http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_72_378&products_id=24393

From what I understand they use a standard AEG hop-up. I am trying to confirm this.

 

[metallicafatcat]

If your going to go with a TBB, either go PDI/Ed/Prommy.
I will tell you that a 6.05mm TBB is more accurate than a 6.01 or 6.03mm barrel. This may sound mean, but if you can't afford at least a Prommy barrel, you shouldn't be sniping though I have seen some above par results with a Madbull barrel (these are with bull barrel spacers), because the barrel consistency is really what matters. A BB, can be thought as a vector, with a ray and magnitude. The ray being the BB's trajectory and the magnitude being, the backspin, speed or etc. for whatever you need it to be. Now for example, we'll use a personal favorite of mine, a PDI 6.05, though any barrel with similar tolerances or diameter can be used. In a perfect world, the BB will follow a similar path every single shot, but we don't live in this world. Therefore, the more consistent the barrel, the more consistent the bounces, which will occur within the barrel, will be. The diameter on the other hand is simple. A hop up, in the perfect world, will set a consistent amount of back spin upon the BB. As soon as the BB passes through the hop-up, back spin is applied causing it to rise within an excruciatingly small time span, will hit the top of the barrel. As soon as it hits the top of the barrel, the vector will change. The tighter the barrel, the more times the vector of the BB will change thus decreasing accuracy. This also applies for barrel length too, because the longer the BB is in the barrel, while is not normally changed in a standard build, those looking for extreme accuracy and consistency will choose a shorter barrel as there is less time for the possibility of change in the vector. Sorry if this is a little overkill on the physics

 

[boxcuta]

Not sure why you would say I can't afford a Prommy barrel, when the link above is for a Prometheus barrel. Unless it's a different Prommy you are referring to. So you like PDi barrels? What makes it better then the others?

 

[metallicafatcat]

Sorry about that, I didn't check the link, because I never do and assuming it was Evike well...yeah

Anyway, the PDIs are formed by cold-forge hammering which in lay-man's terms, is what is used for real rifle barrels and the tolerances haven't been matched by a mass producition company yet, plus they're SS like Prommy. Prommy did release a new line of barrels called ASH and they're 6.05mm internall diameter, but no one I know has gotten one yet, so I can't say the same about their tolerances.

 

[boxcuta]

I like hammer forged I will look into it. Thanks

 

[mateba]

I would go with the HPA tank and air rig first. The gun comes stock with a 6.05mm TBB. Yeah its not a PDI but its not like your BBs are going spelunking either. I would still consider KM, 6.04mm teflon infused stainless, as a viable barrel brand. If you tap your mag and for whatever reason your air rig craps out, our you forgot to fill your bottle you can plug your mag and run GG. To plug a mag just take a set screw and some left over 1/4" or 6mm tube, which ever you decide to use, and screw it in, fit it into your push-to-connect fitting and your done.

I would buy 2-3 extra stripper clips, o-ring kit, a gasket, and a hammer kit. I tried a SCS hopup nub and found it to be very sensitive and requires perfect installation. You might want to try a soft prometheus aeg bucking.

You'll need to cut a allen key down to reach the hopup under your scope. Or get a thumb adjustable set screw. Try mcmaster carr for all your extra parts.

AustinWolf on classic airsoft forums makes the best dual reg air rigs.

I have a teammate running one at ~80PSI with 2-3FPS shot to shot difference. He can get over 600FPS if he wants. He loves it but the hopup has been long term tweak fest with an SCS.

 

[boxcuta]

This order was meant more of a few starter things, mainly Bbs. I will build the HPA over the winter along with all internal upgrades. What ever I can't find for this gun I will make. Still no recommendations on a Hop-up I assume I should upgrade the rubber as well. I'm still new to AS rifles so my terminology is weaksauce

 

[boxcuta]

Picked this scope up last night. Nothing special just a Wall-Mart special.

 

[mateba]

reread mine for the HU suggestion

 

[boxcuta]

Wow, I totally missed that. I guess Hooked on Phonix didn't work for me....

 

[aaron2269]

The gun comes stock with a 6.05mm TBB.

I heard that its stock barrel is 6.07mm. So getting a TBB barrel would be beneficial. I emailed EVIKE.com with the question.
How did you figure out the stock diam. of the inner barrel? If you measured it or got the specs from a more valid source then I guess Evike is full of shit.

Regardless, I would go buy a 6.04-6.01mm TBB. You'll get more accuaccy and your fps would increase a little.

I'm going to be working on an Ares AW-338 build myself and the first upgrades I'm putting in are the hop-up bucking and TBB.

 

[boxcuta]

I'm holding off on the barrel for now. I'm ordering a few things tonight, BBs and the bucking. After I get the rifle I will start working on the HPA rig. I'll mess around for a few weeks with pronane just for fund while I build the rig.

Scope on my LWRC

 

[boxcuta]

So I can't find a Prommy soft bucking anywhere. Everyone seems to be sold out. Ehobby is out of mags lol. Not looking good for me

 

[mateba]

I can't believe I'm suggesting this, try Evike. BUT, only after you exhaust you over sea options.

REDWOLF
WGC
UNcompany

 

[boxcuta]

Why are they so hated in the community?

 

[fuzzywolly]

Why are they so hated in the community?

Evike has terrible customer service. I do not like them at all, they tried to rip me off. Luckily, I was able to work things out with the credit card company and I got my money back. No thanks to evike.

However, they have so much good stuff, and their inventory on everything is pretty good. Only reason I buy from them is when no other place has what I need.

 

[boxcuta]

Damn that's crazy. I'll keep looking then