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Hi guys, I’m relatively new to airsoft(about 6 months) and brand new to sniping. After a ton of research I decided I wanted the TM Vsr g-spec, but since I intended to replace all of the internals over time I went with what I understand to be the better of the TM clones, the jg bar-10. Along with the rifle, I bought some accuracy upgrade parts… and on my next check I’m planning on buying the rest. I’d love you’re guys’ input on the parts list I’ve got so far and any recommendations on my future purchase :)

Maple leaf crazy jet 6.01 300mm
Lambda g-spec inner barrel spacers
Action army Vsr hop up
Maple leaf omega nub
Autobot 70 bucking
Teflon tape
Action army 170 spring

That’s everything I’ve bought so far, with the intention of improving accuracy out the gate. Not sure if I’ll put the 170 spring in until I’ve got the rest of my upgrade parts, but here’s what those will be:

Action army zero trigger kit w/ 90 piston
action army masamune cylinder kit
Laylax pss10 spring guide
Action army silver bolt cap
Action army silver bolt handle

is there anything I’m missing? I was thinking about a sorbo pad, but I’d love a recommendation on which one/size? Also I’m planing on buying the $40 novritsch foam suppressor. Thank you for your time guys.
 

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Get a longer inner barrel. The 300mm one is best suited for 0.66gm bb's.
Here are the barrel lengths and ratios for a VSR
0.3gm bb use a 554mm barrel (15821 mm^3) = 2.26:1
0.32gm bb use a 530mm barrel (15136 mm^3) = 2.36:1
0.36gm bb use a 500mm barrel (14279 mm^3) = 2.51:1
0.4gm bb use a 470mm barrel (13422 mm^3) = 2.67:1
0.43gm bb use a 430mm barrel (12279 mm^3) = 2.92:1
0.45gm bb use a 400mm Barrel (11423 mm^3) = 3.13:1
 

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Get a longer inner barrel. The 300mm one is best suited for 0.66gm bb's.
Here are the barrel lengths and ratios for a VSR
0.3gm bb use a 554mm barrel (15821 mm^3) = 2.26:1
0.32gm bb use a 530mm barrel (15136 mm^3) = 2.36:1
0.36gm bb use a 500mm barrel (14279 mm^3) = 2.51:1
0.4gm bb use a 470mm barrel (13422 mm^3) = 2.67:1
0.43gm bb use a 430mm barrel (12279 mm^3) = 2.92:1
0.45gm bb use a 400mm Barrel (11423 mm^3) = 3.13:1
I had considered a longer barrel, but the g-spec is 303mm and I didn’t want much sticking out the front of the outer barrel because I had intended to utilize the foam suppressor :( are there many options as far as longer outer barrels for the g-spec?
 

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You can have up to a 500mm inner barrel before it will stick past your silencer.
With an M170 spring you should be able to use 0.45-0.48gm bb's. So the best barrel length for these is 370mm. So you will still be using a good amount of the silencer. In fact, you only need about 100mm for a silencer and it will catch the majority of the excess gasses that make sound. The rifle should still be reasonably quiet.
You could also get a G-Spec silencer adaptor and put a longer silencer if you wanted.
 

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You can use a 430, 470, or 510mm Maple Leaf or Novritsch outer barrel with some foam in the end to act as an integrally suppressed gun with a shorter inner barrel inside, and if you desire more sound dampening you could always add a suppressor.

I'd recommend that you stick with the G-spec and get an Action Army adapter(not he G-spec/L96 one, the really big one) and a large suppressor like a 40X250mm or so.
This is the best sound suppression for overall length out of every combo out there, and it is more popular among experienced players than most anything else, at least those of us who use a suppressor.

It's alright to run an inner barrel inside a suppressor as there's really nothing wrong with it, and most people who have a suppressor usually just leave it on the gun after taking it off a few times.
Usually newer players will get excited about having a super modular setup like a second upper assembly for an M4, a second slide assembly for a pistol, a suppressor, scope, or bipod that comes off easily, or really anything of that nature, but it is all a gimmick really.
Usually once you're done fucking around with your gun you leave it the way it is, and you'll usually end up trying to have as little on it as possible to improve weight and use.
And as for storage, you can buy a 51 inch hard case for pretty cheap that you can store a bunch of stuff in, and they are easy enough to move around, making romoving your suppressor sort of pointless.
 

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You can use a 430, 470, or 510mm Maple Leaf or Novritsch outer barrel with some foam in the end to act as an integrally suppressed gun with a shorter inner barrel inside, and if you desire more sound dampening you could always add a suppressor.

I'd recommend that you stick with the G-spec and get an Action Army adapter(not he G-spec/L96 one, the really big one) and a large suppressor like a 40X250mm or so.
This is the best sound suppression for overall length out of every combo out there, and it is more popular among experienced players than most anything else, at least those of us who use a suppressor.

It's alright to run an inner barrel inside a suppressor as there's really nothing wrong with it, and most people who have a suppressor usually just leave it on the gun after taking it off a few times.
Usually newer players will get excited about having a super modular setup like a second upper assembly for an M4, a second slide assembly for a pistol, a suppressor, scope, or bipod that comes off easily, or really anything of that nature, but it is all a gimmick really.
Usually once you're done fucking around with your gun you leave it the way it is, and you'll usually end up trying to have as little on it as possible to improve weight and use.
And as for storage, you can buy a 51 inch hard case for pretty cheap that you can store a bunch of stuff in, and they are easy enough to move around, making romoving your suppressor sort of pointless.
damn lol I already got the gspec/L96 adapter. Does it not fit? I guess I’ll return the ML 303mm crazy jet to evike and get the 430mm instead. I already have regular m4 barrel extensions in various sizes, Do you suppose with the right thread adapter I could go from g-spec outer barrel to skinny outer barrel extension to the novritsch foam suppressor with no issue?
 

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You can have up to a 500mm inner barrel before it will stick past your silencer.
With an M170 spring you should be able to use 0.45-0.48gm bb's. So the best barrel length for these is 370mm. So you will still be using a good amount of the silencer. In fact, you only need about 100mm for a silencer and it will catch the majority of the excess gasses that make sound. The rifle should still be reasonably quiet.
You could also get a G-Spec silencer adaptor and put a longer silencer if you wanted.
alright you’ve convinced me sir. Thank you so much for taking the time to help me :) I’m gonna exchange the 300 for a 430. Do you think the rest of my list is solid as far as the parts I intend to buy?
 

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The rest looks fine.
Personally, I would get between 370-410mm and not longer. But that is up to you and depends on the bb weight you will be using.
 

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I'd stick with it if you have it and won't be getting another outer barrel, but I find that they unscrew themselves sometimes.

I'd forget about the extensions and either use the suppressor you have, or a longer one with an adapter for more silencing.
 

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You can hand make some of your parts and save money for bbs or any other better inner part: (In general your list is good).
No need to buy inner barrel spacers (handmade)
No need to buy bolt cap
No need to buy bolt handle
No need to buy sorbo pad (handmade).
No need to buy Nov's foam suppressor. You can handmade the foam discs and install those in cheaper suppressor.
Maple Leaf Ωmega nub (handmade). Make SS-nub, ask SiliconeSword as it is his idea and is working great.

As for other internals (cylinder, cylinder head, spring, spring guide, piston) I would suggest Laylax's. Great quality.
I also suggest to check Maple Leaf C.J inner barrels.
I also suggest to use the heaviest bb you can. Go for 0.48gr bbs.

Happy "hunting" and welcome.
 

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Two changes I'd make: Grab yourself a Masada arm for that action army chamber. This replaces the arm and nub, so ur gun is much more stable and therefore accurate. I find its also easier to install by a lot.

Second, I love the rapax rms 3+ springs in combination with a laylax or wasp piston. Makes for a more quiet system with less spring rattle, and is also extremely easy to install. Any 13mm spring guide would do.
 
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True. The Action Army M170 is a bit twanty for sound. The Laylax SP170 is also very quiet.
 
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