KJW M700 problems, HPA rig question

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MGunner

Discussion Starter · Jun 19, 2012 (Edited)

I've got a line on a used M700 for $100, but it has a problem, the trigger doesn't work. When the bolt is pulled back, the trigger doesn't reset. Sorry for the vague description, I can give I better one when the gun is in my hands. It's not the bolt, he has already ruled that out.

Also, for an HPA rig, what can I use for the low pressure regulator that IS NOT a Palmers reg? I know they are the best but to my understanding there are regs that are just as good for less. A link would be best, but I'll take a name and do some searching.

Also, that coiled paintball hose is a wicked pain in the ass, so should I use 6mm or 8mm line?

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Cheese Man

· #2 · Jun 19, 2012

I like 8mm line, and the rigs that polar star sells are pretty good for not being a palmers reg.

I think AKA are pretty good, it's what p* uses.

MGunner

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 19, 2012

Cheese Man said:
I like 8mm line, and the rigs that polar star sells are pretty good for not being a palmers reg.

I think AKA are pretty good, it's what p* uses.

I think I'm going to get one of their premade systems, probably the PJ V.2, mostly because they know what they are doing and It will save me a ton of time.

Now, are those able to use CO2? I have a couple small CO2 bottles and I'd prefer to use those instead of drop more coin on an HPA bottle. I doubt it, but i figure I might as well try.

Would it be dangerous to get a cheap tank from a pawn shop? They always seem to have a plethora of of paintball stuff. As song as all the seals are in check and the hydro test date hasn't expired, I would feel fairly safe using it.

Cheese Man

· #4 · Jun 19, 2012

Yup, they are capable. Just about any reg can use CO2.

I wouldn't cheap out on an HPA tank, they hold 3000 PSI (more than a bomb) and have a trust to weight ratio of something like 700:1 if something fails.

MGunner

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jun 19, 2012

Cheese Man said:
Yup, they are capable. Just about any reg can use CO2.

I wouldn't cheap out on an HPA tank, they hold 3000 PSI (more than a bomb) and have a trust to weight ratio of something like 700:1 if something fails.

Good point... That would be a bad situation.

If they can use CO2 then I'll use my tanks and grab a nice HPA tank when my funds allow it.

Also, any idea on the length of line that runs from the reg?

Cheese Man

· #6 · Jun 19, 2012

I like about 2.5-3 feet, but I run my rig basically in my armpit and then down my sleeve, so it might need to be shorter or longer depending on your preference. I would say 3 feet is enough though.

MGunner

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jun 19, 2012

Sounds good. Worst comes to worst, I can just buy a longer piece. It fairly cheap. I got my rig all squared away, and for a total of $173, plus shipping from Redline and Palmers, so probably about $180.

Anyone have any idea of what could be causing the rifle to malfunction?

Cheese Man

· #8 · Jun 19, 2012

Yup, worn trigger parts, or possibly someone tightened the adjustment screws until the trigger doesn't work.

You can get a p* rig from amped for like $140

MGunner

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jun 19, 2012

Cheese Man said:
Yup, worn trigger parts, or possibly someone tightened the adjustment screws until the trigger doesn't work.

You can get a p* rig from amped for like $140

The cheapest rig they have is included in that, its closer to $150. M and a friend are going halves on a tap that is $28, so $14 each, and I need some odds and ends from Palmers.

Any idea where I can source these parts or buy a new mech all together?

Cheese Man

· #10 · Jun 19, 2012

Seriously? I got a whole tap and die set for like $50...

g&g makes some of the parts, but if they don't, send me the worn/broken one and I will mill you a new one.

MGunner

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jun 19, 2012

Cheese Man said:
Seriously? I got a whole tap and die set for like $50...

g&g makes some of the parts, but if they don't, send me the worn/broken one and I will mill you a new one.

I toyed around with the idea of buying a whole set, but I honestly dont need one because it would only get used once

Will do. Once I figure out what is wrong with it, and if I cant buy the parts, I'll let you know.

Cheese Man

· #12 · Jun 19, 2012

Oh. What size do you need?

MGunner

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jun 19, 2012

Well, a 11/32 to 1/8 tapered would be best, but a 1/8 tap would work too.

Cheese Man

· #14 · Jun 19, 2012

They are all like that. They start at 11/32 and then turn into 1/8 at the end. The tip of your tap has smaller threads than the middle/end part.

Cheese Man

· #15 · Jun 19, 2012

I can do it for you if you want.

Or, go to lowe's the taps there are cheap and good enough for general use. They tap steel and aluminum nicely.

spellisaac

· #16 · Jun 19, 2012 (Edited)

I had the exact same problem you have to take the trigger setup apart and there should be some springs that aren't engaging they slid off to the side of a .5 inch wide 2.5 inch plate that normaly pops up after you pull the bolt back but the springs slid to the left and the right its an easy fix if you do it right.

message me if you need more info

MGunner

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jun 20, 2012

spellisaac said:
I had the exact same problem you have to take the trigger setup apart and there should be some springs that aren't engaging they slid off to the side of a .5 inch wide 2.5 inch plate that normaly pops up after you pull the bolt back but the springs slid to the left and the right its an easy fix if you do it right.

message me if you need more info

Thanks for the info, Ill relay to the current owner if the rifle.

dobey

· #18 · Jun 20, 2012

I highly recommend going right to HPA, my first foray into a remote gas system was a palmers rig and co2 tank, I was never very happy with it, and sold the whole thing.

This time around I went for it again with HPA instead of the co2 and what a difference! I gave up on the first rig thinking there wouldn't be much difference between co2 and HPA and man was I wrong.

Let my $$ loss and frustration be your gain, and skip the co2.

MGunner

Discussion Starter · #19 · Jun 20, 2012

dobey said:
I highly recommend going right to HPA, my first foray into a remote gas system was a palmers rig and co2 tank, I was never very happy with it, and sold the whole thing.

This time around I went for it again with HPA instead of the co2 and what a difference! I gave up on the first rig thinking there wouldn't be much difference between co2 and HPA and man was I wrong.

Let my $$ loss and frustration be your gain, and skip the co2.

Alright, I'll pick up a tank. I'd prefer a smaller one. Any suggestions?

Cheese Man

· #20 · Jun 20, 2012

Ninja makes nice tanks.

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