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KJW M700P Build

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I have been working on this gun for a while and wanted to share it with you all.

Gun: KJW M700P
Scope: Matrix 3-12x50 Illuminated Reticle Sniper Scope

Internal upgrades:
King Arms Air Seal Chamber
G&G Rubber Air Seal Set
CNC Chamber Conversion Kit
EdGI 6.01mm Precision Tight Bore Inner Bull Barrel
G&G Steel Cocking Piece
Palmers HPA Rig

External Mods:
Cut 5 inches from outer barrel
Custom thread adapter for 14mm CCW
10 inch custom silencer
Paint
Harris Bipod

Here is a test video I made today shooting it at the 200 foot range at Black Ops Airsoft, I need to tweak the camera mount a bit for tomorrows game:

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Looking pretty good Dobey, use some 3m double sided tape to fix er' on there and it will suck up a little impact.
glad it worked out for you.
Indeed nice one ... Looking forward to see it finished.


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Thanks for that scrap of Kydex Boogeyman!

You can never assume a new part is just ready to install from the package. Here is a 9-ball hop rubber (which everyone loves to use) right out of the package. I installed it and saw a piece of rubber hanging down in the barrel, pulled it out and turned it inside out and found a bunch of casting rubber still on it, I needed to carefully remove the piece with a razor blade:



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Man, that sucks. Thanks for sharing though; I'll definitely checkout my buckings in the future. Hopefully you can salvage that one.
How the hell do you guys manage to flip your buckings like that? I always felt like my PDI W-hold would tear to hell.. >.>
I just stick a bit of each thumb into the hole, pinch it and roll it inside out. It is hard because the rubber is tough, but it is doable. This rubber is shooting pretty decent right now so I think I saved it, need to break it in and see what it does.
This is my custom thread adapter, it screws right into the outer barrel with a RH thread, and has LH threads on the end. I wanted something that would support the can very rigidly, and this fit the bill.

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good pm sir;just want to ask;with regards to the kingarms hopchamber piece ( the one in red) whats the part inserted above it? the small hole;if you have pics of the part would appreciate the photo ref

thanks

After putting it all together and using it for a few weeks its time to look around and see what we can make better. I noticed the bolt was a little sticky, and saw some wear marks. These are indicators that there is excessive rubbing going on.

When modifying your gun lets keep a few things in mind:

You are probably not smarter than the people that designed the gun. With that said you are not restricted by something they are, Time. Time is money in the manufacturing world, and they just cannot afford to take allot of time making and assembling your gun if they want to make any money selling it around $200.00.

You on the other hand can spend all the time you like taking it apart, checking tolerances, fit, and finish on all the pieces. The best way to do this is to use it, take note of parts that are too hard to move, to loose etc. Then take it apart, look for wear marks, and places to tighten things up. A good fit and finish check can go a long way.

As I was saying, the bolt is a bit sticky, and I can see wear marks right away:



There are also casting seams that can be removed, I only bother to do this on the parts that make contact:



Anyplace the paint is coming off is from wear, clean it up with some small files and fine sandpaper:



Remember these parts are cast not machined, so they are not perfectly flat and have flaws. Not because the people making them are stupid or lazy, it is about time and money. If the gun as all aluminum and cnc machined instead of cast and white metal, it would cost $2000.00 instead of $200.00. Use your Time advantage and clean all these parts up, don't try to remove metal, just do as little as possible to make the parts right and finished:



10 minutes later:



I cut off about 5 inches of outer barrel because I knew I would be using a silencer, and didn't want a gun 5 feet long:



This lets you see how much room is left inside the outer barrel even with an EDGI Bull Barrel which is bigger around than a standard barrel:



Since the inner barrel is only supported at each end it leaves the entire length unsupported and free to vibrate each shot. I made some nylon spacers to take care of this, I am sure you can buy these but they were easy for me to make so I didn't bother:



Here you can see why I chose the EDGI Bull Barrel, it is much thicker, and will vibrate less with each shot, only the ends are machined down to fit the gun still:

i have a king arms hop up chamber in my G&G L96, that hole in the top is where the hop up plate slips in to adjust it.
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Here are some pictures showing the drilling and threading of a Tanaka long mag for HPA. These are from a second gun I built identical to mine for a friend.

This shot shows the gas reservoir in the lathe with the fill valve removed:



The hole drilled out for the 1/8 NPT thread size:



The proper way to run a hand tap in nice and straight:



The threads all cut:



The reservoir cleaned up and installed back into the mag:



The nipple installed from the Palmers rig:



The Tanaka long mag is listed as not compatible with the KJW 700, but filing a little bit here and they slip right in:



Three styles side by side, from left to right: Palmers quick disconnect nipple, right angle air brake connector, old style twin reservoir Tanaka mag:

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Nice, I am just about getting close to tapping my first long magazine, since I now have my air rig.

Questions:
1) When creating threads in the tapped hole, do you go "clockwise 90 degrees, counterclockwise 45 degrees" and so on until you reach full 360 degrees? OR until you reach the end of the threader drill?

2) You used a static drill, as far as I see..to go straight perpendicular on the gas tank cylinder..how would you feel if I had no static drill close by? :) Hand drilling..done with multiple drill sizes from small to large..

3) What did you use to remove the gas valve? A simple flat screwdriver?

Thanks man!
1) When creating threads in the tapped hole, do you go "clockwise 90 degrees, counterclockwise 45 degrees" and so on until you reach full 360 degrees? OR until you reach the end of the threader drill?
What you are describing is called breaking the chip. As you turn the tap into the metal it cuts a chip that curls up on the cutting edge, backing it up lets the opposite side of each cutting face run into the curled chip that is still attached to the metal and it cuts it free.

This lets you keep the curls small and they wont clog up the tap and ruin the threads. Just go slow, keep it straight, and when you back it up you will feel it cut the chip and suddenly get easy to turn.

If it is a tapered fitting and tap I would run it in a little over half the threads on the tap and then remove it and test your fitting, if you can screw it in most of the way it is done. If not run the tap in a bit further and repeat the testing. You don't want the fitting to screw in by hand all the way, just most of the way, the tapered threads need to eventually get stuck as it is threaded in to create a seal.

2) You used a static drill, as far as I see..to go straight perpendicular on the gas tank cylinder..how would you feel if I had no static drill close by? :) Hand drilling..done with multiple drill sizes from small to large..
This will work fine, just clamp the work piece down or in a vise so it doesn't turn or twist. Go slow, keep it straight, and use multiple drill sizes until you reach your desired hole size.

Don't rush the job, take your time, remember you cant put the metal back. The mag is expensive and you want it right the first time. If you feel the job is being rushed, or not going right, take a break and come back to it later.

3) What did you use to remove the gas valve? A simple flat screwdriver?
You can remove it with a screwdriver, just be careful. I used a valve wrench, you can see it in this picture (the Y shaped tool):

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Update: the long magazine cylindrical tank has a brass inner cylinder inside, right after the valve.. How am I supposed to remove it? I think I am going to drill through anyway, simply because the new hole and threads are going to "eat" the entire previous valve space ;)
I pulled on it a bit and it was in there tight so I did what you said and drilled it right out.
I pulled on it a bit and it was in there tight so I did what you said and drilled it right out.
Exactly what I have done in the meantime..when I reached a drill size close to that brass cylinder, it fell down by itself.

I just tapped my magazine and tried it out..it works and.. No leaks from submerging it under water! The first air bubbles coming from the open inside of the magazine (between the externals and the cylinder) scared the heck out of me :(
Thanks Dobey, I am feeling all proud and charged since you another one of those that know their stuff ;)
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Some pictures from today, I made a new mount with a bit of RIS rail on it for the contour camera, hoping to experiment with more angles in the videos.



Here it is with my Night Vision Rifle scope on it:

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Hi Dobey, love your work and videos. I recently purchased an ares Aw338 cnc edition. I am in the process of hpa conversion, both mags I have are tapped at 1/8 npt and I am looking to buy the propper fittings and a rig. Do you recomend a dual regulator setup or a single? And what size tank do you use and recomend. I am looking at a ninja 13/3000. Keep up the great work and I hope to hear back from you.

-HUND
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