KJW M700P Build

I have done several. I don't normally comment about the r hop but because you asked me directly I will.

I have machined barrels for friends and helped install probably 5 or 6 times r hop patches in the last year or so. I have never seen an increase in range over a standard hop unit that was working correctly. I don't know if all the people saying they get more range really did, or maybe they did get more range but their standard hop unit was not working correctly.

I have an airsoft range marked to 250 foot with targets at every 25 feet, I am sure you have seen it if you watch any of my videos. Targets were set with a surveyors tape, and verified with my Simmons laser range finder. That being said an AEGs that chrono 350 fps with 0.25g bb's usually shoot to 175 feet out of the box and the hop up properly tuned.

I mention this because I want to quantify what I consider max range of a gun. I set the hop up so the bb shoots straight, and at the end of its flight it lifts slightly, maybe 3 to 5 inches before dropping to the ground. Next I see how far the gun can shoot and hit one of the steel 14 inch targets at the range without arcing or lobbing the shot. Ussually this is around 175 feet if it is a stock gun with the above mentioned fps. I set the sights or scope for 150 foot, so the bb hits where the sight aims.

Once all that is done sure you can strap it to full auto and dump a rainbow arc of 150 rounds out to the 250 foot mark and maybe hit it 2 or 3 times, that doesn't mean I get on the internet and say I have a gun that shoots 250 feet, I say I have a gun that shoots 175 feet because that is what I can shoot one bb at and hit reliably.

Now that you have read all that and understand my terminology I will say again, I have never seen an Rhop increase the range of an airsoft gun over that of a correctly installed and working standard hop unit.

They may or may not be a little more stable shot to shot but they are also much more sensitive to adjustment, and a huge pain in the ass to install.

With all that being said I find it very hard to believe the numbers people spout on the internet about 300 foot shots, or even 400 foot shots with guns in the 1.5 joule range.

My field sees about 1000 individual players over the course of the year (citing number of waivers we collect here) and of those 1000 players they each usually have 2 or more guns. So it is fair to say that I see, chrono, and shoot at a real range literally thousands of airsoft guns each year in various stages of being upgraded.

In all that time I have never seen any gun that was field legal (1.42 joules) that could hit the 250 foot plate as I have described above. 99% cannot even hit the 200 foot plate.

So that is my take on the rhop, the results do not equal the hype, and definitely do not equal the effort it takes to install it.

I definitely agree that there is no way somebody with a field legal gun could be hitting the 400ft mark...it's just ridiculous.
My main experience with an r-hop came from an installation on my bar-10. I could see a clear increase in range and a much flatter trajectory. However, I do believe that you are also right. I had only been using the stock bucking, which could very well be the reason I noticed such a jump in performance.
It all depends on what you like! I enjoy spending time tuning my rifle - I may be able to achieve the same result faster, but it's just something I like to do.
Also, I do watch your videos and enjoy them very much (I think they are the best scope cam videos on youtube). I respect you, and I hope you don't take my post the wrong way. You have much more experience than I do and it's nice to see things from another person's perspective.

Thanks
Lucas