[ace]

What is a good longrange M4 model?

 

[mojo]

Are you asking what to start with as a base for a project?
or
a System that has good Range and Accuracy out of the box... that you can build up later?

 

[ace]

Haven't been able to get on becuase of Time Warners "Friendly" service, they cant keep anything straight. But anyway i was talking about somthing good out of the box

 

[mojo]

I went to Airsoft GI and did a quick look for weapons I have used in the past and have found to be excellent choices for recommendation. I understand the appeal of the M4/M16 but I would suggest not limiting yourself to just the one weapon series. there are a lot of great weapon systems out there.

With that being said here is the quick list...

CA M15A4 SPR $395
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_150&products_id=1907

CA SR-25 $440
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=154_157&products_id=1982

VFC SCAR-H SSR $440
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=154_157&products_id=5593

KWA KM16 SR12 $395
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_150&products_id=5634

Airsoft GI G4-A5 DMR $230 (Release 9-30 - Got to shoot a prototype at an OP in Cali)
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_302&products_id=5319

Echo 1 Barret REC 7 $210
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_163&products_id=4527

Echo 1 ER-25k $295
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_163&products_id=5123

Echo 1 SCAR $210
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_163&products_id=3885

Echo 1 Stag-15 M-16 DMR $170
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_150&products_id=2355

 

[vindicareassassin]

In short there are 2.....

1/ The ICS M4

2/ The Systema PTW

Everything else is let down by a shockingly inconsistant hop system.

They are upgradeable, but even then will not get anywhere near the shot to shot consistency of a barrel design hop unit.

 

[silentfury214]

In short there are 2.....

1/ The ICS M4

2/ The Systema PTW

Everything else is let down by a shockingly inconsistant hop system.

They are upgradeable, but even then will not get anywhere near the shot to shot consistency of a barrel design hop unit.

the KWA's have a lot better hop-up system now.

 

[ace]

Im looking for an M4 for a designated marksman role. I like the G4-DMR but the fps was lacking

 

[silentfury214]

Im looking for an M4 for a designated marksman role. I like the G4-DMR but the fps was lacking

Then up the FPS.

 

[mojo]

FPS lacking.... hell that's a new spring... $15

In short there are 2.....

1/ The ICS M4 .... $295

2/ The Systema PTW .... $895 - $1400

 

[slowscoper52]

The G4 dmr is a really good gun ive had the chance to use it once, my only problem as what you will probable find in reveiws are that the gun was realativley front heavy with the rear made of plastic and the front metal. Not a big problem but can alter stance somewhat.

EDIT: i would also reccomend that for upgrades that you find a silencer and get a longer tightbore because the standard dosent reach out much farther than some G&G m16s

 

[vindicareassassin]

EDIT: i would also reccomend that for upgrades that you find a silencer and get a longer tightbore because the standard dosent reach out much farther than some G&G m16s

I don't know where you are getting your info from but sticking in a longer barrel will not, under any circumstances, increase your range more than a few feet, and only then because of the extra 25 or so fps it will generate :

The only way of getting good range and accuracy is to have a stable and consistent hop assembly coupled to a descent rubber and nub...period.

Which is why when this question was asked last week I gave a list of weapons with such a hop as standard, rather than the out dated 'I wantz an M4 so I can look all GI and for it to shoot like my mates VSR'....it'll never, ever, ever happen..... unless its an ICS or Systema.... or something that doesnt actualy look like an M4!

Back to the barrel issue....

It is widely accepted that the ideal length for an accurised weapon is upto 450mm long,and never more than 500mm, and that most AEGs fireing heavy ammo, at approximately 350/400fps, you should be aiming towards 360mm.

I'm not about to go into the physics/maths of it all, its just safe to say.... Longer/tighter/faster is not always better, and if you've been convinced on other forums that it is, then your just destined to an airsoft career of waisting cash and never seeing the full potential of your weapon

And if you dont believe me, take a better look round the tech section their is some tests that myself and a couple of the other regulars did where a standard 6.08 barrel out shot a 6.0something tightbore.... just a little something to think about next time your about to swap out a stock barrel for an uber expensive, knobs and whistles TB, before you've even put a battery in the gun :

For those that cant be arsed to search

 

[slowscoper52]

Oh yeah sorry i meant to say tighter groupings, oops

 

[l4gi]

The Systema PTW doesnt exactly have the best hop-up either.

 

[dutton]

The Systema PTW doesnt exactly have the best hop-up either.

Are you speaking from experience, or hear-say?