[goldentrigun]

I've been looking for a co2 powered version of any of these pistols. The reason I'm looking for these certain pistols is because they are the only ones which will fit my holster.
I've been looking for about a week now and couldn't find anything which I know for a fact will fit so now I'm asking here.

Has anyone seen a co2 version of the following?:
glock 17 (possibly 18 as well?)
glock 22
glock 31
s&w m&p
cz sp01 cadet
cz sp01 shadow
s&w 99 full sized
walther 99 full sized
ruger 345
ruger sr9
sig 226


I found a possible sig 226 however I'm not sure how close the size is to the real thing b/c of the manufacturer.

I really prefer the Glock over the others however it seems like not many manufacturers made them.

 

[wack2011a]

226

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=32830

TFC(Glock look a-like)

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=33405

Umarex P99

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=33382

M&P

http://www.ebay.com/itm/U-co2-Smith-Wesson-SW40F-S-W-M-P-40-mp40-SIGMA-Blow-Back-BLACK-360fps-RARE-/180752140617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a15aac949

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Smith-Wesson-M-P-BB-Pistol-Black-Finish-Semi-Auto-CO2-Md-2255050-/280799530386?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4160f4cd92

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Airsoft-CO2-Gas-Smith-Wesson-M-P-Pistol-Smith-Wesson-MP-/160701752420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256a922464

CZ(similar)

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=32135

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=35820

Others (similar looking models to the SR9 and R345)

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_45_238&products_id=35799

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_45_238&products_id=35911

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_45_238&products_id=35909

All of them c02.

Hope that helps!

 

[goldentrigun]

I just went through all of them and from what I can tell all but one I know for sure won't fit or I can't buy spare magazines with them.

Alot of them are either sub compacts or they are competition barrels which would make them not fit in the holster.

can anyone comment on the specs of the TFC glock? How close is it to the g17?

 

[wack2011a]

What holster are you using that is so exclusive to these?

 

[goldentrigun]

http://www.fobusholster.com/index.php?p=catalog&mode=search&search_in=all&search_str=glt17&x=0&y=0

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3442/img0734.png
^a picture of that holster with the px4. You'll see why I can't use compacts or competition versions.

I originally bought it for my px4 however since it is getting to the point that green gas isn't an option I am looking for a co2.

Also, since the holster was so expensive I would feel stupid if I bought another just so I could use it in the winter months. Plus left hand level 3 holsters are so hard to find. (I prefer the level 3 because I was absolutely tired of the gun falling out of the holster every time I took a knee or started running.) I can literally do anything with this holster and not worry about it falling out. Even if I do brush open the thumb snap.

 

[inthetallgrass]

You can get a KSC G18 and get a Ra-tech co2 converter mag - not cheap but brilliantly good.

 

[goldentrigun]

What do I need to upgrade internally though so it can run the co2 mags. I know with the higher pressure you need something a little more upgraded.

 

[the3rdeye88]

Upgraded nozzle I think and probably a heavier recoil spring. Maybe a new spring guide if the stock piece is too small.

 

[goldentrigun]

Ugh at that point I might as well get a co2 m9 or 1911 and buy the holster for it.
This is why:
ksc g18c: 150 on WGC
2 ra-tech mags: 80 on ebay
upgrade parts: probably about another 50

I'll be in another 280 (lets not even talk about shipping) for something I only really planned on using in the winter.

 

[mateba]

Co2 guns are short lived. I would stay away from Co2 GBBs pistols. If you don't believe me start calling major retailers and ask their tech guys, not their salesmen. They are kinda like the "Lipo ready" gimmick for AEGs. I have run my TM on CO2 and HPA but between 70-130PSI (air rig) which is a huge difference from unregulated gas. I have also upgraded the piss out of it. Why can't you use propane/ green gas or red gas? And yes, it'll be cheaper just to get another $30 holster.

If you are insisting on CO2 I would consider asking these questions on the GBB forums besides here. They would know more about Co2 and pistols and what it takes to keep them skirmish-able enough to see a return on the cost in upgrades, if thats even possible. You could also just say you love airsoft, spurge and we'll understand while you run late on your bills.

An external air rig and a small Co2 bottle would be cheaper than a new replica and you could convert the mags you already have. I would use fittings that have the same threads as your mag's fill valves. Take the fittings out in spring and reinstall the fill valves. On top of that, you have an air rig which are a piece of cake to sell if you don't want it for other projects. I walk my velocity up to 400FPS (315 w/ .3g) in my 1911 and can shoot out to 200' with it. Its pretty awesome. 350FPS is still great but we allow 0 MED for 400FPS in semi-auto which still really hurts, but eh, paintball was worse.

 

[goldentrigun]

Yeah I knew that co2 GBBs really are short lived. I've read a couple things about them and my preferred choice was always to get nbb co2 for the cheapness and decent performance.
The reason I also can't use green gas at the moment is that it is just to cold. I get about 2 or 3 shots and then the rest of the shots either won't push the loading nozzle far enough back to load another bb or it won't do anything at all.

I'll also admit my knowledge about gas guns is really limited. I would really like to learn how to tap mags for a co2 or hpa rig, however I'm afraid that I may just waste money on fittings and break $30+ mags in the process. Also, with a lack of a drill press at my current residence I feel like the job above would be made 50x harder.

I do have a question though. Can you run tapped mags in an un upgraded gun. Granted it still has a metal slide and decent internals.
I would be willing to pay someone to tap the mags for a co2 rig however there really isn't anything upgrade wise out right now for the px4 other then a loading nozzle and hi flow valve. I also don't care if the FPS remains the same. I just want the damn thing to work year around whether its -5 or 95.

 

[inthetallgrass]

I agree with Mateba. The reason I keep saying for people to get the co2 mags is cause they are pretty cool. Also I live in Ireland where green gas is actually pointless in the winter. Co2 is the only thing that works very well. Granted my

 

[mateba]

If you take the fill valves out and figure out the threads, which will most likely be metric, you can order fittings that will be "drop in" and all you would need to do is unscrew them and replace the fill valves in the spring. No drill press or tap needed, no tapping, no drilling just swapping parts. Running regulated gas in a GBB is fine. Just start off at a low PSI and slow increase it until you get to the factory velocity with green gas at room temp or rear 300FPS. Take note of that PSI setting and from then on you'll be able to run stock velocity without any cool-off. I have a highly upgraded TM so I use more pressure if I want but you can raise your velocity without raising your PSI with 6.01 TBB, high flow valves and heavy BBs.

 

[wack2011a]

Using the KWA 226 in -5

 

[goldentrigun]

Now that I just got home I went and checked the screw size of the fill valve. It is the same thread as what is used on the back of a v2 spring guide. Fancy that I didn't have to do to much searching. Now to remember what the metric equivalent of that screw is lol.

EDIT: m5 .80 pitch is what I found on the internet.
EDIT 2: I'm not really sure what I'm looking for here.

Other then something that'll fit the thread that I currently have.
I see 10-32 quick disconnects. Although I'm worried that with the conversion from metric to ANSI I won't be able to get a good seal. Do I have real cause for concern?

 

[wack2011a]

Provided it threads on you could use teflon tape to fix any small mis-measurements right?

 

[mateba]

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/polybutylene-tube-fittings/fittings/plumbing/ecatalog/N-a8hZ1z0nmbq

 

[goldentrigun]

See this is where I wish I had more experience in this sort of thing.
The male connector looks like a female connector. Do the two brass pieces fit over each other in order to make a connection? Or is it the two orange pieces pushing together.
Sorry if I seem really stupid asking that question, but from the pictures I can't tell. Also, google doesn't seem to want to help me right now as I can't find anything where a connection has already been made.

Also, I'm not even sure I can use that in the first place (if the brass pieces need to fit over each other) because the hole for the fill valve is recessed a little. Maybe a 1/5" in and the OD of that hole until it starts threading is 1/4".

If that is the case It looks like I'll have to either find something smaller which I doubt i'll be able to do.
Or have to talk to people about machining something out for me.

 

[ghost944]

This might fit your criteria. I hope this helps man.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_186&products_id=7432

 

[goldentrigun]

Yeah I saw that. It is more like a g19 however is 1mm or so longer then the 19 length. So they effectively made it so it wouldn't fit into any hard shell holsters.