[blackshade69]

Hey guys i'm looking at getting a classic army M24 military version and will want to upgrade to just under 500fps (sites limit for bolt actions is 500) and i was wondering if i got the advanced cylinder kit and a prommy 6.03 tb barrel what spring bucking and bolt handle will i need?

 

[zulu]

Which advanced cylinder kit? It should include a spring, and a google search will find you its power.

Don't worry about the bolt handle as long as you're cocking it correctly. For the bucking you'll want to go with a soft prommy, stock TM, or a guarder hard bucking.

 

[blackshade69]

The CA advanced cylinder kit for the m24 it comes with a 300% spring but i heard this takes u over 500 fps and im getting a prommy 6.03 so that will increase fps slightly

 

[mojo]

I run that exact setup in mine...
I'm getting 495fps +/-3
im using a madbull red hopup bucking it holds up well in my environment.
but hopup buckings are like underwear... you should change them often..

and you are exactly right you will need a new cocking handle...
the CA Advanced Cylinder kit comes with a longer tang than the standard cylinder.

the laylax APS 2 bolt handle should work just fine... ($59.99)

 

[blackshade69]

Cheers guys for the info i should get a decent accuracy out of this set up with .36's?

 

[dutton]

and you are exactly right you will need a new cocking handle...
the CA Advanced Cylinder kit comes with a longer tang than the standard cylinder.

the laylax APS 2 bolt handle should work just fine... ($59.99)

Not necessarily true. CA makes 2 different advanced cylinder kits. If you needed to get an APS bolt handle, it's because you got the APS version. The M24 version you can use the stock handle, though they're complete garbage and I would replace it anyways.

 

[mav3r1ck]

Dutton, you posted this list a few years back about upgrade parts for the m24:

FF-PSS2-TC First Factory - Teflon Cylinder for APS2 US$102.00 US$102
GD-APS2-03 Guarder Ultra Light Aluminum Piston for APS2 Series US$29.00 US$29
GD-PT-APS201 Guarder Taper Cylinder Head for APS-2 Series US$20.00 US$20
FF-PSS2-SG First Factory - PSS2 Spring Guide for APS2 US$30.00 US$30
FF-SP-150SP First Factory - PSS2 150 Spring for APS2 US$21.00 US$21
FF-PSS2-PH First Factory - PSS2 Piston Head for APS2 US$12.50 US$12.5
GD-PT-APS208 Guarder Steel Bolt Handle for APS-2 OR & SV US$36.00 US$36
Grand Total Cost: US$250.5

WCGshop is out of pretty much everything due to it being discontinued. Im looking to put my m24 right around 540 (550 absolute MAX) and was wondering if you knew where i could get these types of parts for around the same price. I looked at some pdi stuff but it would mean closer to 500 dollars...

 

[dutton]

Dutton, you posted this list a few years back about upgrade parts for the m24:

FF-PSS2-TC First Factory - Teflon Cylinder for APS2 US$102.00 US$102
GD-APS2-03 Guarder Ultra Light Aluminum Piston for APS2 Series US$29.00 US$29
GD-PT-APS201 Guarder Taper Cylinder Head for APS-2 Series US$20.00 US$20
FF-PSS2-SG First Factory - PSS2 Spring Guide for APS2 US$30.00 US$30
FF-SP-150SP First Factory - PSS2 150 Spring for APS2 US$21.00 US$21
FF-PSS2-PH First Factory - PSS2 Piston Head for APS2 US$12.50 US$12.5
GD-PT-APS208 Guarder Steel Bolt Handle for APS-2 OR & SV US$36.00 US$36
Grand Total Cost: US$250.5

WCGshop is out of pretty much everything due to it being discontinued. Im looking to put my m24 right around 540 (550 absolute MAX) and was wondering if you knew where i could get these types of parts for around the same price. I looked at some pdi stuff but it would mean closer to 500 dollars...

Give me a few days, though you likely wont find them all at one place. A few good places to try are
www.cobraairsoft.com
www.redwolfairsoft.com
www.uncompany.com

I'll look around at a few other sites sometime this week and let you know what I come across. Perhaps PM me when you read this to remind me about this and testing the "sniper" barrel in the PDI chamber, 'cause I'm sure it'll slip my mind.

 

[mav3r1ck]

Just in case any one else wants this list Dutton got it for me from airsoftshop.com. Here it is:

First Factory Teflon Cylinder For APS-2
$102.00

First Factory PSS2 Taper Cylinder Head for APS2
$25.00

First Factory PSS2 Piston Head For APS-2
$12.50

First Factory PPS2 Spring Guide For APS-2
$30.00

First Factory 150 Spring For APS-2
$21.00

First Factory 3 Element Piston for APS-2
$43.00

First Factory Bolt Handle For APS-2 (Right Hand)
$65.00

PDI Hop-up Chamber For M24 ( Adjustable Hop-up )
$45.00

Total: $343.50 + Shipping


Thanks again Dutton!

 

[Livonia]

Should be one hell of a rifle.

I've got a sticky about the PDI hopup chamber in the Maruzen section, they are all similar enough for my Maruzen guide to help if you're having troubles.

 

[blackshade69]

hey in the way of a bolt handle would one from X-Fire be compatible with the CA advanced cylinder kit?

 

[dutton]

hey in the way of a bolt handle would one from X-Fire be compatible with the CA advanced cylinder kit?

Yes, so long as you get the M24 version advanced cylinder kit as opposed to the APS. At a quick glance over at x-fire.org they only carry the M24 style handle, whether it says APS or not (and looks like the picture below) it needs an M24 style cylinder.

 

[blackshade69]

Thats the one! The pictures they have show it with their own cylinders and yes i will be getting the m24 specific cylinder (CA advanced cylinder kit) and their m24 handle alonmg with the PDI hop.
My final question with the setup listed so far what ammo should i use to get the best overall range AND accuracy?

 

[dutton]

Probably .36s, but it's best to get a couple different weights, from a couple different brands and go out and see which shoots the best for your specific rifle.

Also, I said be careful which cylinder set you purchase because CA does produce 2 different advanced cylinder kits, one of which is APS specific, one of which is M24 specific - the only differences is the length of the piece where the handle attaches. The shorter is for the M24, the longer for the APS. I say be careful because many sites advertise them as interchangeable, which they in reality are, the difference just determines which handle you need.

 

[blackshade69]

Thanks guys for the help i look forward to getting my rifle and upgrading it. i want the m24 style handle still in my opinion it looks better than the APS2 bolt handle (more realistic).Also i was thinking .36's madbulls to be specific what sort of effective range would this give me?

 

[mojo]

Also i was thinking .36's madbulls to be specific what sort of effective range would this give me?

This question cant really be answered because there are just too many variables.
You will need to do some trial and error to figure that out.

I use Madbull .40g in my M24 (ER = 200-220ft)

 

[blackshade69]

Ok cheers i will experiment with .36 and .4s and see what i like best

 

[csprod]

Can anyone tell me some websites where I can get these upgrades? I am wanting to start playing and I really want to upgrade my M24 when I get it. Thanks