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I would suggest mancraft change the VSR cylinder head(The nozzle) to this shape:

It enters the hopup unit much easier.
I'll try modding one of them to fit, I'm just waiting for a 16mm drill bit in the mail.

I just got mine in mail yesterday, and the nozzle on the cylinder head looks vastly different on the VSR-10 kit than what is shown on the website. I'm thinking they must have taken customer feedback into account.

 

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And what do you think of the kit?
Is it noisy?

The quality is impressive. You can tell the guy is obviously passionate about his work and the sport. It's nice to see an operation like that compete with other companies. He also is giving away what looks like PVC Mancraft patches for everyone who buy/bought a conversion kit.

I haven't got a chance to test it out as the regulator hasn't arrived yet.

From what I have heard it's supposed to be 40 decibels per shot. Not sure how that would compare to various spring upgrades for the VSR-10 though.

But to put it in context of average, everyday occurrences....

"...Shout (5 feet) 100 dBA
Heavy truck (50 feet) 90 dBA Very noisy
Urban street 80 dBA
Automobile interior 70 dBA Noisy
Normal conversation (3 feet) 60 dBA
Office, classroom 50 dBA Moderate
Living room 40 dBA
Bedroom at night 30 dBA Quiet
Broadcast sstudio 20 dBA
Rustling leaves 10 dBA Barely audible"

 

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Also, does anyone know what the tiny black set-pin included with the Mancraft regulator is for? I don't want to assemble it and use it only to have the thing explode on me

 

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So good news and (mostly) mostly bad news.

Bad news: I can't install the kit because their cylinder head is *juuuust* too long. Magazines will not stay in and the nozzle puts excess pressure on the hop because of the overall length when installed in the cylinder.

Good news: The customer service is wonderful and Michal genuinely wants to help his customers. Oh, that and the regulator is sexy!! He did a custom milling job that my manometer regulator will fit flawlessly in the stock of my FN SPR A5M

I have zero idea what to do, I don't think I have access to any machinists around here, and if I did I'm not sure they would be able to tackle something like this without damaging the cylinder head. Overall I'm feeling pretty crappy. My luck with airsoft purchases is zero at this point. Was really looking forward to this working

Has anyone else encountered this problem?

 

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I'm not sure if this will help but try using it with a stock cylinder. AFAIK they were designed to be used with stock gun parts so maybe it's just to big for teflon cylinder? On the other hand the cylinders should be the same size so I really don't think this should solve the problem.

The stock cylinder was a PoS and broke shortly after the gun arrived.

It appears that there is excess material on the upper cap portion of the cylinder head and that the same amount of excess is also in the nozzle

 

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FYI to everyone using Mancraft's regulators:

If your airsoft events require tournament locks on CO2 and/or HPA set-ups, I have found that Natech/DH Customs makes a blaze orange SCM-III Tournament lock that will fit on the regulator. Just add a strip of tape around the cap that regulates the pressure, apply the lock and zip tie shut.

Link below:
http://natechdev.com/?product=scm-iii-tournament-lock-hinged

 

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Pain_is_Red, about your problem with the kit. This idea just popped into my head, thought I'd share it with you. Have you thought about taking a few mm out of the cylinder itself? It should be much easier than to remove excess material from the inside of the cylinder head cap without use of machinery tools and may solve the problem.
The bad thing is you probably won't be able to use this cylinder with standard parts anymore.

I was considering that to be honest but I like the ability to swap out the mancraft kit for spring parts should something fail during a game.

I sent Mancraft some diagrams as to what I need done and Michal is going to get back to me, so, fingers crossed basically.

If the problem still persists I'll probably just end up shaving off 1mm off the cylinder. It's a last resort, because if it doesn't work I'm down an $80 cylinder as well.

 

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Keep us posted.
BTW, what cylinder are you having problems with? Is it PDI?

Angel Custom (which seems like the Action Army also) cylinder. Parts including the Mancraft kit fit in with ample clearance.

 

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So Michal is making the cylinder head for me and will hopefully get back to me with a picture before shipping it out. Here's hoping this issue finally get fixed.

 

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Guess what came today!? lol

One on the left is the replacement the one on the right is the taller, defective cylinder head. That *1*mm makes a big difference.

Second picture is besides the stock cylinder and cylinder head

Pretty pumped to see if this fixes the issue, either way I'll both be keeping in contact with Mancraft as well as on here as to any updates.

 

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My FN SPR is FINALLY up and running! The new cylinder head is a perfect fit.

So for those that have this for your vsr platforms, are you able to run the line in the stock so you can fit the regulator and a co2 cartridge in the stock so everything is self contained?

Yes. You can use their standard CO2 regulator, however, their regulator w/ attached manometer required milling down the sides of the big ring located in the middle of the regulator (where the manometer is located). Michal had the milling done for me.

I actually had to cut some of the line as their was a great deal of excess to ensure that it will not only fit but have extra in case you want to store it externally (to an extent)