MK 23 IDEA

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Clolas

Discussion Starter · 15 d ago

Hello everybody, i came up with idea that needs some polishing and finishing. So i have STTI MK 23, the gun is crazy, shoots very well, really long ranges (as everybody knows already). So i have it for third year right now and its time to replace it. The gun costed me 50euros, and i think i am going to buy the same again. But i have 3D kit for it, i will put photos of it and the end of the thread. And i since the gun working principle is so easy, maybe someone has some blue prints how to transform it to longer riffle like novritch's SSQ22. What would it take to increase the range of the mk23 what mods are the best for it?. And why for example if i want to increase range on AEG i need stronger spring, but for mk 23 all u need is longer barrel? Could someone explain the physicks to me. Thanks

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Akami

· #2 · 15 d ago

TDC, light trigger pull (I don't know how to do it yet though, at least with stock assembly), and longer barrel if you want to turn it to a rifle completely.

For gas guns in general, you actually need to do adjustment too, to its spring knocker power to adjust the fps. But most of the time it is unnecessary since even with stock setting, the gas output is "overvolumed". A knock from its hammer is powerful enough for a 500mm++ inner barrel.

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AsianGuy

· #3 · 15 d ago

If I understand you right, you want to turn a pistol into a rifle platform?
If this is the case, 3d printing the parts would be a cost prohibitive endeavor. That's ALOT of filament...and assuming it all goes right the first print

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E-11

· #4 · 15 d ago

Take the SSX303 - it's just the stti with what you wanted to print - but aluminum.

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Akami

· #5 · 15 d ago (Edited)

Not necessarily have to turn it into a rifle. After all that's would defeat the purpose of sidearms in airsoft.
Edit : Ah my bad, I thought you are OP

As for the 3d print kit, I am sure you can find some on thingiverse or any other similar site. And yours is an MK23, it would be easier than conventional gas blow backs to make a carbine kit. Other than the kit itself, you need an extender outer barrel. That also is not mandatory, I would just put a masking tape as a barrel stabilizer inside the kit if I am lazy to get an extender outer barrel

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Clolas

Discussion Starter · #6 · 15 d ago

E-11 said:
Take the SSX303 - it's just the stti with what you wanted to print - but aluminum.

Its ti expensive to me

I want to make it my self.

Clolas

Discussion Starter · #7 · 15 d ago

Akami said:
TDC, light trigger pull (I don't know how to do it yet though, at least with stock assembly), and longer barrel if you want to turn it to a rifle completely.

For gas guns in general, you actually need to do adjustment too, to its spring knocker power to adjust the fps. But most of the time it is unnecessary since even with stock setting, the gas output is "overvolumed". A knock from its hammer is powerful enough for a 500mm++ inner barrel.

But is there after market light trigger pull for mk23? If yes could you drop me a link for it

Clolas

Discussion Starter · #8 · 15 d ago

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Akami said:
Not necessarily have to turn it into a rifle. After all that's would defeat the purpose of sidearms in airsoft. As for the 3d print kit, I am sure you can find some on thingiverse or any other similar site. And yours is an MK23, it would be easier than conventional gas blow backs to make a carbine kit. Other than the kit itself, you need an extender outer barrel. That also is not mandatory, I would just put a masking tape as a barrel stabilizer inside the kit if I am lazy to get an extender outer barrel

So i have this. I found this on thing verse. I looked on internet who prints 3D sent them the blooprint and paid 30e for this. I mean this is pretty much for raill, now i can put a scope on it, and i have m4 butt stock wich is easear to aim with. Now i have a problem where i need more range, and i have 303mm 6.02 shooter inner barrel from my vsr that i dont use. if i would put it in with Maple Leaf 70 degree bucking would i shoot further? Or no? And what else should i do. I looked in the TDC mod MK23 TDC hop-up - set [Hades Airsoft] | TaiwanGun US & EU i am thinking buying this. To cover the barrel il just get big sillencer not a problem. What else i could do to reach max range? I looked into HPA i mean all chill tank is 45euros, line is cheap, but regulators are expensive. Maybe there is alternative, maybe i could use some hard ware regulators or something? Anyone tried it?

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Clolas

Discussion Starter · #9 · 15 d ago

Akami said:
Not necessarily have to turn it into a rifle. After all that's would defeat the purpose of sidearms in airsoft.
Edit : Ah my bad, I thought you are OP

As for the 3d print kit, I am sure you can find some on thingiverse or any other similar site. And yours is an MK23, it would be easier than conventional gas blow backs to make a carbine kit. Other than the kit itself, you need an extender outer barrel. That also is not mandatory, I would just put a masking tape as a barrel stabilizer inside the kit if I am lazy to get an extender outer barrel

Like i have a vsr 10, and i have an DBOYS KAC PDW. Vsr is still being built i need a lot of money for it. And i dont want to dissasemble the m4 because if it breaks i wont be able to play. But the pistol i mean i got few parts i wanna try to max it out. And the parts as tdc and stuff are pretty cheap compared with 200euros i need for my vsr

Leo Greer

· #10 · 15 d ago

Gas guns usually have lots and lost of extra gas that shoots out the barrel as wasted energy. When you add a longer barrel the BB accelerates with that extra gas and gains a lot more power.

AEGs can have the same thing happen, but AEGs use a lot less gas, and instead rely on springs to pressurize the air and send it through the barrel. A stronger spring equals more pressure.

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Clolas

Discussion Starter · #11 · 15 d ago

Leo Greer said:
Gas guns usually have lots and lost of extra gas that shoots out the barrel as wasted energy. When you add a longer barrel the BB accelerates with that extra gas and gains a lot more power.

AEGs can have the same thing happen, but AEGs use a lot less gas, and instead rely on springs to pressurize the air and send it through the barrel. A stronger spring equals more pressure.

This explained a lot thanks. But how do i find out how much gas is being released and what barrel length i should choose to be perfect.

Clolas

Discussion Starter · #12 · 15 d ago

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Leo Greer said:
Gas guns usually have lots and lost of extra gas that shoots out the barrel as wasted energy. When you add a longer barrel the BB accelerates with that extra gas and gains a lot more power.

AEGs can have the same thing happen, but AEGs use a lot less gas, and instead rely on springs to pressurize the air and send it through the barrel. A stronger spring equals more pressure.

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Would this be enough? Or gas travel faster than bb and it will go around it because there will be some space left as its 6.02 and leave gun first? Or how it works, because with snipers when i shoot air i understand but gas is it any different? Or the gas will go around bb and clean the path up front making resistance from wind smaller?

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Leo Greer

· #13 · 15 d ago

Clolas said:
This explained a lot thanks. But how do i find out how much gas is being released and what barrel length i should choose to be perfect.

For AEGs, there's a chart, since they use cylinders and the air amount is basically the same each time. There's a stickied thread here in "Long-range AEGs" that has the chart.

For gas guns, I don't know, but another more knowledgeable member might. It's a lot of gas, but if you used all that gas your gun would shoot super hot, so shorter barrel lengths are appropriate.

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Leo Greer

· #14 · 15 d ago

Clolas said:
Would this be enough? Or gas travel faster than bb and it will go around it because there will be some space left as its 6.02 and leave gun first? Or how it works, because with snipers when i shoot air i understand but gas is it any different? Or the gas will go around bb and clean the path up front making resistance from wind smaller?

Some gas does make it around the BB, but it's not a ton. It's basically the same as air once the BB and the gas are in the barrel.

For barrel length, you should pick your length based on the FPS you're trying to get with certain BBs. A shorter barrel will be good for CQB, but may not provide enough power for a DMR build. I don't know anything about what lengths you might need for the SSX.

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E-11

· #15 · 15 d ago

Usually Novi does some tests, so this might be helpful: SSX23 High Power Airsoft Pistol – Novritsch | Airsoft

SiliconeSword

· #16 · 14 d ago

I would start with that barrel covered by a silencer, and that should get you to at least 2J. If you want more power you will need to buy the spare trigger for the SSX303, but that barrel should get you pretty far.

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