[patriot]

Hellow guys!
i dont own a TM vsr, but i own a JG vsr.

i've got it a lot of parts in it

Laylax PSS10 Zero Trigger & Piston VSR-10
First Factory-IB-Marui-VSR-10 (555mm) 6.03
Laylax PSS10 VSR-10 Hop-Up Chamber
NINE BALL Air Seal Chamber for Marui Hand Gun ( modded with extra teflon tape! )
Laylax PSS10 Spring Guide VSR-10
Laylax PSS10 170sp Spring


Ive alsow got a VERY nice scope on it:
a leopeuld mark 4 scope
and i;ve got a silencer on it, from Tokio marui
( the vsr was not a Gspec version )

i get around 523 fps with .25 bb's
( to much for playing legal in the fields i play at )

the only problem is
im wondering, what's the best spring for normal high fps en does not f**k up my tricker system ( because i already see weardown at the system, after 4 months of playing! )

so can you guys help me out ???
the fps can be around 450 MAX 490.

Greetz
patriot

 

[zulu]

An sp150 should get you just over 500, depending on your setup. Sp130 or sp140 (if those are still sold) would work for that fps, with perfect compression and the right setup.

It's really a trial and error thing, and depends on the rifle. I'm not especially familiar with the PDI spring rating system, but those are laylax's.

Also, running ~600 fps (this could be off by +/- 50 fps, I really don't know how that converts to .2's at that speed, without doing the F=ma crap) isn't smart in any setup. However, I'm a bit surprised the zero trigger is the first thing showing wear, given its design (it puts very minimal stress on the sears).

 

[woogie]

Did you buy the rifle new or used? I ask because if you got it used, then you were lied to. There is no way that there can be that much wear on a zero trigger and only have 4 months of play.

Hell my V trigger has been used a ton in the year I have had it. And it still looks like new.

 

[patriot]

i;ve bought al the parts brand new!

so that is what im worring about!

but around 150 is good enough ?

 

[zulu]

See woogie I was thinking the same thing

 

[patriot]

i dont need 600 fps to get to my targets

a good barrel and hopup gets me more distance , then when i only run on high fps
sure you need fps, but never 600.
i shoot with .27 gram bb's.
perfect with the 100% , but a hell with the 170% spring!
whats the best bb for 170% springs ?/

greetzs
patriot

P.S.
zulu, im a laylax guy 2
for me laylax is the best way to upgrading for me!

 

[woogie]

PDI and laylax are all the same company

But yeah I would call the company and try and get something out of them .... No reason why it should be worn yet.


Glad to see that you got your rifle, although not mine But half the fun is the building and waiting for the parts. Looks like you did your share of reading and got all the same companies parts...

 

[zulu]

Woah woah woah...if PDI and laylax are the same company, I definitely have had my head in the sand.

Laylax is the same (I use this phrase loosely, I'm sure there are differences in marketing, etc. but the products are essentially the same and run by at least affiliated management) as prometheus, nineball, and first factory. But PDI is separate, and distributes through x-fire.org as well as major retailers, and I think they have a direct retailer in England as well. At least that was my impression.

Am I missing something?

In any case, as far as trigger systems the zero trigger seems more efficient internally as far as # of parts and trigger pull weight (a matter of preference). But both will stand up to similar fps-s, so the choice really depends on compatibility.

 

[silentfury214]

I am not saying that i am an expert on the situation (mainly because i am not), but PDI and Laylax are two separate companies that use two separate distributors. Also, if they are the same, why wouldn't they be marked as the same on websites that distribute both?

 

[patriot]

PDI and laylax are all the same company

But yeah I would call the company and try and get something out of them .... No reason why it should be worn yet.

Glad to see that you got your rifle, although not mine But half the fun is the building and waiting for the parts. Looks like you did your share of reading and got all the same companies parts...

to know to get everything in same brand, is what i've learned here!
so i wanna thank you guys!

now im waiting for my well l96 sniper
i wanna buy that 1, and upgrade the hell out of it

after that, a other 1, only i dont know what

greetzz
patriot

 

[woogie]

I always was under the impression that laylax was a part of PDI or the other way around? I could be wrong with that as well.

But yeah the v trigger is nice... but the zero is alot nicer. The v trigger can have kind of a hard trigger pull but a very nice let off. The zero trigger you can adjust to the weight you like.

Market them on two different web site and make more money

But then again it could be something like the STAR and ARES thing. Ares was a part of Star and then Ares broke away to do there own stuff. Again heard and found all that out durring the L96 stuff.

 

[dutton]

To clear up any confusion, PDI and Laylax are NOT the same company.

Perhaps you're thinking Laylax and First Factory? They are in fact the same company, and are also the same as Prometheus. So, Laylax, First Factory, and Prometheus ARE the same company.

 

[woogie]

That could have been what I was thinking..

Oh well none the less they are both very good companies.