New Guy

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jackknife09

Discussion Starter · May 29, 2011

Hello all, I'm a newcomer to airsoft - in fact so new I haven't taken a shot or hit an airsoft field yet. 21, Colorado native. But it's something I've always wanted to try, and I finally have the opportunity.

First question on your minds, I'm guessing, is why this greenhorn wants to start off his airsoft career with sniping. The scout-sniper fascinates me, for a number of reasons, but more than anything it's the concept of force multiplication. Communications, force direction, observation - all that tasty recon stuff.

I've grown up in the mountains, only moved to the capital a few years ago, so I'm not a stranger to the wilderness, either. So when I hit the field, I'd like to be the one giving reports to my squad, skull dragging around in the dirt, and occasionally scaring the hell out of the enemy when their friends start appearing with dead-rags on their heads.

Good to be here.

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bobgengeskahn

· #2 · May 29, 2011

Good to have you.

So they dont allow ghillie suits in CO??? (saw your post about sunshades).... this actually makes me re-consider wanting to move there.....

Anyways, have fun on the boards, there is a lot of great info to be had here.

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jackknife09

Discussion Starter · #3 · May 29, 2011

bobgengeskahn said:
Good to have you.

So they dont allow ghillie suits in CO??? (saw your post about sunshades).... this actually makes me re-consider wanting to move there.....

Anyways, have fun on the boards, there is a lot of great info to be had here.

I'm peeling through all the threads here, I've picked up a lot of information so far (many thanks to the creator of the rifle painting tutorial, and the target selection guides, for example). Suffice to say, I have ten books' worth of theory, now I'm just waiting to put what I know into practice.

Yeah, the ruling against ghillies is something I'm a little confused on, tbh. It's an organization rule for Airsoft Colorado (ASCO), I'm guessing there's been enough trouble caused by ghillies in the past that the rule had to be put into effect...

Kinda sucks, but I think I'll wait until the shine is off my gear before I start questioning rules. XD

Really, half my disappointment is that I don't get to make my own ghillie, it looks like a lot of fun. The other half, well, they look fun to creep around with, too. T.T

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2echo

· #4 · May 29, 2011

One question: What defines a ghillie in the law against it? If it is the jute or burlap that "makes" the ghillie, you could just make a suit with just rubber bands, and attach veg to it. Use some 3-D camo as a base or something

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pvt13

· #5 · May 29, 2011

Welcome to the board, good to have you

You can still make a ghillie, you're just not allowed to use it on official fields.

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bobgengeskahn

· #6 · May 29, 2011

jackknife09 said:
Yeah, the ruling against ghillies is something I'm a little confused on, tbh. It's an organization rule for Airsoft Colorado (ASCO), I'm guessing there's been enough trouble caused by ghillies in the past that the rule had to be put into effect...

Ah I have heard of this, not sure if it was here or on another forum though. But I believe the consensus there was that the reason there cant be ghillies is because of, cheating? Not necessarially an official law, more like a team that has turned into the unofficial/official state airsoft orginization.

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jackknife09

Discussion Starter · #7 · May 29, 2011

pvt13 said:
Welcome to the board, good to have you

You can still make a ghillie, you're just not allowed to use it on official fields.

Heh, I just might, it looks like a sweet project.

The rubber bands were another thought of mine, but I'll wait until I have a little combat experience before I decide on how I go about concealment. But, Hathcock didn't use a ghillie, so it's not like you can't be a sneaky killer without one.

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fuzzywolly

· #8 · May 29, 2011

jackknife09 said:
But, Hathcock didn't use a ghillie, so it's not like you can't be a sneaky killer without one.

You got that right. The ghillie will help, but its not impossible to blend with your surroundings without one either. It can and shall be done.

By the way, welcome aboard, glad to have you with us.

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awagg

· #9 · May 30, 2011

Plain camo does go a long way... Some rubber bands attached to some netting would be great, and almost like a ghillie.

Any details on that stupid rule... just seems like the makers were sick of getting shot in the back from 200 ft. away

PS: WELCOME TO THE MAD HOUSE!

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jackknife09

Discussion Starter · #10 · May 30, 2011

awagg said:
Plain camo does go a long way... Some rubber bands attached to some netting would be great, and almost like a ghillie.

Any details on that stupid rule... just seems like the makers were sick of getting shot in the back from 200 ft. away

PS: WELCOME TO THE MAD HOUSE!

Well, basically, as I understand it, there have been too many issues with ghillies in the ASCO organization in the past. According to them, ghillies - especially wookie types - can make it difficult for a player to tell when they've struck a sniper (there's no audible pop like on bdu material or skin).

This leads to more problems when the player himself can't feel the strike. It means that even a good natured player might accidentally not call a hit - or worse, that dishonest players can continually ignore hits.

It makes sense to me, so I'm not complaining. I'm sure there will be an opportunity in my future to go to an out-of-state op and wear a creeping suit or something.

I'll just have to hone my skills even more, and adapt to the environment.

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awagg

· #11 · May 30, 2011

That's very lame. You aren't going to take one shot at a sniper... usually you, and your team is going to light up the bush/hide he's in... it's not uncommon to be throwing 50bb's at him a second. If you're at close range, and you see a sniper... he's going to be hit, no doubt.

Once you get a few games in you'll see how this is pretty lame.

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jackknife09

Discussion Starter · #12 · May 30, 2011

awagg said:
That's very lame. You aren't going to take one shot at a sniper... usually you, and your team is going to light up the bush/hide he's in... it's not uncommon to be throwing 50bb's at him a second. If you're at close range, and you see a sniper... he's going to be hit, no doubt.

Once you get a few games in you'll see how this is pretty lame.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't like to have the option for a ghillie, it'd be an awesome addition to the realism of the game. But I respect the number of complaints that must have led to them being banned in the first place. Who knows, maybe the rule will change in the future.

They've cited other issues; for example, players stumbling on snipers in prone position and firing on them, only to discover they were friendly and the suit hid their uniform colors.

I'm also expecting to be treated as an HVT, regardless of the game. Part of the job, right?

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