[Livonia]

Here are a couple quick guidelines to remember.

-"First shot, Second shot, Last shot". This is a classic sniper technique that will save your ass one day in the field. Take your three shots then relocate.

-"What you think is a good hide, isn't". Avoid fallen logs, and shooting from trees. The exposure off the side of top of your cover is only an odd shape to the human eyes. This is called "Tree Cancer". Cliche hides are nothing but a dead giveaway to a trained Countersniper.

-"Guerrilla Warfare". Read every article you can find about it, because it just may be a good friend.

-"Spotters". Are unnecessary in Airsoft, they are just another person to give away your position.

-"Play it smart". Make sure you don't lose sight of your enemy and get yourself surrounded, always keep to the outside of firezones for a far flank, your long range will come in handy.

 

[mosin]

-"Spotters". Are unnecessary in Airsoft, they are just another person to give away your position.

Dang.. Biggest slap in the face to spotters out there : \

 

[zulu]

But unfortunately true, in my experience.

If you have someone you play with regularly, whose camo is as good or better than yours, and who is just as good at stealth/picking hides, etc. etc...
Then I'd consider it. But that begs the question "wouldn't you be more effective split up, seeing as there won't be a fatigue factor in airsoft (not a substantial one)?" Psssst

 

[mosin]

Well... I personally roll as Livonia's spotter just about everytime we roll into the bush together, not even everytime to provide true spotter coverage, but even in the legal rules of engagement, seeing as his rifle shoots a consistant 550 FPS with a .2 ... Which is just at the limit for Michigan Rules of Engagement with an airsoft sniper rifle, being that I carry an M14, which shoots a lower 420 FPS with a .2 ... Leaving my engagement to ranges closer than his rifle can touch, and gives us more of an advantage of firepower.

I'd also like to mention that I can honestly say I've never given away his position, or any sniper I've worked with for that matter, as well as helped in concealment of my sniper once he got into his hide. Just as the Corpsman takes care of his Marines, the Spotter takes care of his sniper. So I'm going to have to disagree with the statement.

 

[Wandall]

I myself use spotters more like a handy two legged back up/close range life savers. =D Covering up me rear etc... Propably Finnish dence woods as an playing area (from like 9 out of 10 playing areas) has its effects.

 

[embed]

I remember back in the day when Livonia would roll along and spot for me. True, it was useful having his SPR there for a heavier base of fire if needed but overall I've experienced that alone I can be much more effective in most situations.

For me, spotters are useful in some situations and completely superfluous in others. I don't need any 'help' hiding, that is, unless it's a final distance check by a buddy to make sure I don't have any odd ends sticking out but that can just be radio'd in. Spotters in airsoft are fun at times, but in no way a necessity.

From and urban standpoint, the need for a spotter just goes out the window in most cases. If you're fighting alongside riflemen, grenadiers and support gunners, why would you need some guy following you around? It's just one more distraction and focus is key.

seeing as his rifle shoots a consistant 550 FPS with a .2

I'm pretty sure it shoots a consistent 515, but no big.

 

[mosin]

I remember back in the day when Livonia would roll along and spot for me. True, it was useful having his SPR there for a heavier base of fire if needed but overall I've experienced that alone I can be much more effective in most situations.

For me, spotters are useful in some situations and completely superfluous in others. I don't need any 'help' hiding, that is, unless it's a final distance check by a buddy to make sure I don't have any odd ends sticking out but that can just be radio'd in. Spotters in airsoft are fun at times, but in no way a necessity.

From and urban standpoint, the need for a spotter just goes out the window in most cases. If you're fighting alongside riflemen, grenadiers and support gunners, why would you need some guy following you around? It's just one more distraction and focus is key.

seeing as his rifle shoots a consistant 550 FPS with a .2

I'm pretty sure it shoots a consistent 515, but no big.

By means of helping hiding, I can recall times when I've grabbed leaves from nearby areas around or below him, and place them on, while he must remain in position, for reasons obviously known. But as far as urban standpoints go, having a sniper rifle is flat out un needed, but I'm saying if things get a little close to the chest, you don't have the option to run everytime.

I guess it depends on the individual, but in no way would I consider a spotter useless, and if anything... I'd say that a well trained sniper and a well trained spotter could do far more damage than even an extremely well trained sniper. So I wouldn't want to rule out the opinion of whether or not a spotter truely is needed in airsoft... Because I have countless examples that give me sufficiant evidence that says they're good to have around.

EDIT: Oh yeah, about the spring... I thought I recalled him saying something like he switched springs recently or something? But then again, it could have just been Mirage's Maruzen that I cronoed at like 545 or something similiar there.

 

[Livonia]

-"Spotters". Are unnecessary in Airsoft, they are just another person to give away your position.

Dang.. Biggest slap in the face to spotters out there : \

Don't take it that way homeboy, you do just as much damage on the field as I do, you aren't my spotter... your my wingman

 

[phridum]

Aww...you two want some privacy?!

 

[def]

I see no harm in a spotter.

If the shooter can locate to a good position out of he normal sights of the enemy how can a spotter not do he same?

Sure it may be tricky to be a few metres apart and effectively cover the needed ground together but I have been in many spots with a friend acting as a spotter and it worked out great and for the moments were we are caught off guard are we are too slow to react to an incoming force then the spotters aeg comes in most useful.

 

[phridum]

In the real world, we generally run the most experience sniper as the spotter now. He's training the sniper and helping him learn the ropes. Not to say that the sniper is inexperience, just not AS experienced. The things a spotter handles and has to make decisions on are generally for the good of the team, whereas the sniper only worries about himself, his shot, and mission accomplishment.

 

[mosin]

Dang.. Biggest slap in the face to spotters out there : \

Don't take it that way homeboy, you do just as much damage on the field as I do, you aren't my spotter... your my wingman

And he redeems himself with that one!

Hahah, well done.

 

[ringleadr101]

but at the same time, yea a spotter could give away your position but he could also save your ass. I suppose it would depend on the spotter, but having him there could be the life or death difference ( so to speak). In my opinion if your gonna have a spotter you both need complete trust in each other's abilities and work as a team. Win as a team and lose as a team.

 

[2echo]

Airsoft is as much as a sosial gathering as a competition, effectiveness is not always what wheighs the most
If you think that it is more fun to play with a spotter, than alone, you might want to have a spotter. Airsoft is just for fun when it comes to the end.
This, although is my opinion.

I hope you guys understand what i mean, i find it a little bit hard to express my self through english, without it being my first language and all ^^

Happy snipin'!
-2Echo

 

[Guest]

I agree they aren't necessary, but i usually travel with a spotter or sorts... more like a co-sniper though. We move in a pair, and usually if one of us gives up our position the other side is taken off guard because they feel that area is cleared. If they've played with us enough, they may become overly concerned with searching the area, because they know the other one may be near by... that can also help by distracting them from their goal.

 

[phridum]

In the real world, spotters are snipers. The title merely differentiates between responsibilities. Throughout the course of a mission you'll trade off sniper/spotter jobs to keep you as sharp as possible.

 

[blacktigerairsoft]

If you live in the Tampa Bay Area, check out my store!
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11911 MLK Jr. Blvd Suite D
Seffner, Fl 33584 just 1.6 miles east of I 75 on MLK

I also have an Airsoft Sniper Tech that works on Spring and Gas snipers...and he makes custom High Pressure air sniper rifles, too!

I just wanted everybody to see this interview on Bay News 9...this happened last Thursday evening in Seffner, just down the street from Black Tiger Airsoft. Safety is #1 ! Don't carry your airsoft guns out on the street. A 56 year old man carrying a full metal M16 SPR with bipod and scope walks down MLK into the Seffner Walmart parking lot and starts pointing it at people. An officer asks him to put down the weapon...the man then turns toward the officer and point the airsoft rifle at him (who knows what was going on in his head)! The officer shoots the man in the stomach! This just happened last WEEK! Watch the video and pass the link on. We've got to keep the sport safe....it all starts with education whenever someone new get an airsoft gun! Here's the video link from Bay News 9!

http://www.baynews9.com/VideoPlayer/?Shooting_Followup_032709

 

[phridum]

This is a pretty small community here so it's not necessary to submit the same message in multiple threads.

 

[jcarradicefrench]

I'm new to the forums, and this is because I want to become a Sniper in Airsoft.

In the past I have owned an electric powered G36c and a fairly useless, and powerless air powered Desert Eagle. I am now turning my attentions to Sniping. I am not necessarily bothered of the Sniper I purchase, because at first I need to find some affordable weapons, could anyone direct me to some useful websites?

And are there any requirements needed in order to play Airsoft in the UK? Like certifications etc. I am a member of the Air Training Corps and have Weapon Handling Training on .22, does this contribute to the allowance of me purchasing and using gas/electric powered airsoft weaponry.

If you could help, this would be great thanks.

 

[vindicareassassin]

Seeing as your a Brit, and from Peterborough, your first stop should be to go to the Fire Support shop, Linky to website http://www.fire-support.co.uk. They can show you all the guns you will ever want to own and several you probably don't I can personally recommend them as myself plus the rest of the team buy all our gear from them.
Next up, go and play at their Woodland site, and if you can contact a guy who is known on the forums as DOA DRAVEN, he snipes with a sub 350fps G36k and he also make the best G suits I have ever seen, he is part of a 5>6 man team that do nothing but snipe, he'd be a great man to ask questions, if not, I'm always here, and just so you know Los Lobos visit Peterborough at least 3 times a year so we may well meet very soon
To get registered to buy a RIF you need to register at a site and play there 3 times within 2 months to get your UKARA number and once you have that you can then buy as many RIFs as you want, be aware though that a registration number only lasts for 12 months, after that you have to do it all again. You could of coarse just buy a "2Tone" gun and cover it in camo tape, all you need to be is 18 to buy one of these.

Hope this helps, oh, and welcome to the boards