[dingo]

So I just put a tightbore barrel in my ARES M110, and I have a bit of a predicament. Well before I put a tightbore in it, it had a spread of a bit less than an 8.5"x11" at ~160 feet. It could also max out hitting a human size target at ~225. Now with a tightbore in it, its groupings at ~160 feet are probably 9.5"x 12", but its max range for a human size target is 350+ feet. Whats going on here? I should add that the tightbore comes out to about half way through the suppressor.

 

[inthetallgrass]

3 possible problems.

1) The barrel is not properly cleaned out.
2) Th hop-up or bucking does not suit the barrel
3) The barrel is too long (Over 425mm) Thus less accurate for an AEG IMO.

Or if you gave the gun maintenance when you put in the new barrel you could have messed something up.

 

[dingo]

Ok so...
Barrel is clean, and hop up fits. Ill measure the length tommorow, and im new to opening up guns so I have no idea what the bucking does or what could be wrong with it.

 

[awagg]

Wait... So you're hitting human sized targets at OVER 350 feet, but are inexperienced at gun work? Sounds fishy...

Also, it seems like there's something wrong with the nub, or bucking. Did you clean it out weird, or so something funny when you put it back together?

 

[dingo]

Yeah just over 350 and the guy at the local shop installed it for me. I'm sitting in with him whenever he does work to guns to find out how to do it. What do you mean put it back together? I cleaned the barrel before he installed it. Here's exactly what happened when he changed it:
-Took upper off lower receiver
-Slid out inner barrel and hop up assembly
-Took inner barrel out of hop up assembly
-Had trouble getting thin rubber sleeve out of hop up assembly
-Got it out, sprayed silicone oil on it, slid it onto tightbore
-Reassembled it

Could he have damaged the thin rubber sleeve when he was getting it out?

 

[awagg]

No, just "sprayed silicon oil on it". He did this so it doesn't rip, but it's hurts the performance. I would either re-do it, or either shoot and shoot and shoot until it wears down, but that doesn't always work. Take it apart and wipe it down. Just remember:

NO OIL ON INSIDE! This is where it touches the bb! The outside is ok.

By the way, the bucking is the thin rubber sleeve, if you didn't know.

 

[dingo]

Ah thank you. Yes he sprayed silicone oil inside and out and made sure the whole thing was coated. I'll redo it tomorrow. Thanks again!

 

[explosive]

A measured 350ft? out of an ARES? Beautiful gun though! Modeled after one of my favorite rifles.

I've made some distant shot and at first I said "Man, that was easily a 300ft shot!" Only to measure later and find out it was 270ft give or take a couple feet.

 

[inthetallgrass]

Yeah it could be that the bucking and nub aren't a great combination. TBH like it's probobly best to stick with a single brend like - Gaurder hop-up chamber - Gaurder rubber and nub but not a gaurder barrel cause they are crap.

 

[dingo]

Ok so now to update and clear a couple things up:
1. Wiped off all silicone oil that I could inside and its shooting much better!
2. Its officially 108 meters to the base of the tree give or take 1-2 meters due to me climbing over a hedge and a fence. (see pics)

 

[explosive]

You know, photos look deceiving, so it's difficult to gauge a distance from a photo.
Not calling you out on anything, or saying your measurements are off.
It still looks like an impressive distance.

What FPS is your gun shooting in order to make a 350+ foot shot?

I still love M110's...

 

[awagg]

Yeah, that seems very far. You must have did a ton of work to get your gun like that? What's your internals look like, and what are you shooting at?

 

[dingo]

Shooting at right around 550 with a .2 but I have no idea with the .36s that I use. It's hitting the target (bare part of tree) 7-8 times out of 10 times. I used a meter wheel clicker thing that rolls on the ground and clicks every meter to measure. When I got to the hedge I stood up a ladder so I'd know where to start from, walked around the hedge and continued. Now it is about 108 meters to the base of the tree, but since the target is part way up doesn't it shorten the distance a bit? As for internals it has a new hop up rubber, tightbore, deans connectors, new spring, motor, and piston. I take no credit what so ever for installing them, because I'm just not comfortable with possibly throwing away $800 and the parts.

 

[awagg]

Well, I'm impressed with your tech if these numbers are true. If you are shooting uphill, at a target that is higher than your elevation of your rifle, then the distance would increase. I could see it shooting 400 feet on flat ground, but that is remarkable. How big's the target? Good accuracy either way though! Nice job!

 

[dingo]

The target is probably about 4 feet tall and at least 2 wide but could be more. The tech is the owner of the store. My bipod is a saw horse since I'm aiming upwards. I'll try to take a video tomorrow or Friday if my phone comes in.

 

[explosive]

Ah! 550fps. ok...

Most Semi Auto AEGs/SASS in my area can only shoot 500 or less. Ranges "usually" are 200-270 feet then.

I got my M14 shooting 250-270 feet accurately with the fps approx 450, but that's a M14 for you.

I wish I knew ARES M110 was capable of shooting so well when they came out. I would of made it a priority to get one (seems like they are all sold out now). The M110 is pretty much my favorite and ARES did a real nice job with the Airsoft version.

 

[quigly]

Get a SR25 and change the front end?

 

[explosive]

Genius!! :