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Hello fellow snipers. While upgrading My type96 i came came across an issue i cant resolve. My PDI hop up is not "flush" with the cylinder nozzle. It was fine till i changed the hop up. As stupid as i am i didnt give much attention to this, until i bent my cylinder nozzle. Its a stock 1 so i was going to replace it anyway. The cylinder just aquires little more pressure to get into hop up groove than the rest of the way. its scraping the groove where the screws for adjusting hop are. Now i know it isnt the screws since i checked them close and they arent it the way. Do you guys have a solution for this. I realy dont like sanding my hop up down
 

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Well, you said you bent your cylinder nozzle, so pretty much, that's the only source of the problem I can really think of lol.

Really, if you replace the cylinder head, you should be fine. In fact, I wouldn't recommend using the gun until you do. Otherwise, you could end up damaging the hop up chamber.

You have, I'd say, 2 options.
1. Go with a stock replacement kit. This is the cheapest price I could find: http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Bolt_Fits_Type_96_Airsoft_Rifle/2643 $29.
2. Go with a PDI Tapered head. This is pretty much the only place you can find them (overseas): http://www.x-fire.org/type96/e.t96_cyh.html $42

Option 1 is good if you don't want to spend money, though the cylinder is the stock brass one that might bend again. Option 2 is a steel head, which might be better as insurance for if you're ever a little less careful in the future. Performance-wise, the 2 options don't really differ. Both cylinder heads use an o-ring on the threads that don't work (the only way to get perfect air seal is to use teflon tape), both are straight tapered, and both can achieve perfect air seal. The only difference is that the PDI has a dampening o-ring, which is kinda useless because nothing works better than sorbo.
 

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Well, you said you bent your cylinder nozzle, so pretty much, that's the only source of the problem I can really think of lol.

Really, if you replace the cylinder head, you should be fine. In fact, I wouldn't recommend using the gun until you do. Otherwise, you could end up damaging the hop up chamber.

You have, I'd say, 2 options.
1. Go with a stock replacement kit. This is the cheapest price I could find: http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Bolt_Fits_Type_96_Airsoft_Rifle/2643 $29.
2. Go with a PDI Tapered head. This is pretty much the only place you can find them (overseas): http://www.x-fire.org/type96/e.t96_cyh.html $42

Option 1 is good if you don't want to spend money, though the cylinder is the stock brass one that might bend again. Option 2 is a steel head, which might be better as insurance for if you're ever a little less careful in the future. Performance-wise, the 2 options don't really differ. Both cylinder heads use an o-ring on the threads that don't work (the only way to get perfect air seal is to use teflon tape), both are straight tapered, and both can achieve perfect air seal. The only difference is that the PDI has a dampening o-ring, which is kinda useless because nothing works better than sorbo.
Omg thank you so much. But. Is it possible that the nozzle bent afterwards? Also. Is it possible to have a bent outerbarrel? Also yea im not using the gun, since i trashed my trigger system. When i have enough time ill buy a zero trigger and a damper cylinder head. Ya im going for the most expensive 1. Money is not the problem for me since i work but sont have to pay the bills (18 years old.)
 

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Do you mean, bent by using the gun regularly? Bending the outer barrel? I think I see it possibly happening. A drop or something with the gun causes the outer barrel to bend, and as a result, the cylinder head gets bent. I see that happening.

Oh, and I don[t recommend getting a Laylax Damper Cylinder head. I find them rather useless. They minimize the "taper," and replace that area with a dampener which is useless. Sorbo is king, like I said before, but the taper size matters a lot more if you want efficiency with your gun. If you'd rather have the gun be quieter, again, I'd still recommend going with either of the 2 I suggested, and then just using a sorbo pad.
 

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Do you mean, bent by using the gun regularly? Bending the outer barrel? I think I see it possibly happening. A drop or something with the gun causes the outer barrel to bend, and as a result, the cylinder head gets bent. I see that happening.

Oh, and I don[t recommend getting a Laylax Damper Cylinder head. I find them rather useless. They minimize the "taper," and replace that area with a dampener which is useless. Sorbo is king, like I said before, but the taper size matters a lot more if you want efficiency with your gun. If you'd rather have the gun be quieter, again, I'd still recommend going with either of the 2 I suggested, and then just using a sorbo pad.
What is sorbo?
 

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It's short for Sorbothane. I don't really know where you can find it locally, though some people do somehow find it. I couldn't find it at my local Home Depot though.

It's a material that's specially made for dampening vibrations. You can easily buy them on airsoft retail sites.

ASGI:
http://www.airsoftgi.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=260 under L96
Evike:
http://www.evike.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=200&osCsid=8067b56935791edeb7db934adbe817b3 Type-96 in description
AA:
http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/Laylax-VSR-10-Cylinder-Damper-p/60164.htm These work, though I don't know if they're made from Sorbo. These are, you'll just have to cut them yourself: http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/HTS-Sorbothane-Cylinder-Head-Damper-p/32732.htm

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It's short for Sorbothane. I don't really know where you can find it locally, though some people do somehow find it. I couldn't find it at my local Home Depot though.

It's a material that's specially made for dampening vibrations. You can easily buy them on airsoft retail sites.

ASGI:
http://www.airsoftgi.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=260 under L96
Evike:
http://www.evike.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=200&osCsid=8067b56935791edeb7db934adbe817b3 Type-96 in description
AA:
http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/Laylax-VSR-10-Cylinder-Damper-p/60164.htm These work, though I don't know if they're made from Sorbo. These are, you'll just have to cut them yourself: http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/HTS-Sorbothane-Cylinder-Head-Damper-p/32732.htm

The list goes on.
Just found out i have a bent outer barrel.. Any tips? ;) im so unlucky...
 

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Well, either you order a new outer barrel from TSD/UTG which should cost you about $30-40, or buy a PDI outer barrel for too much money.

I'd say to just go with the UTG outer barrel. It works just fine. The PDI outer barrel is kind of pointless.
 

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Well, either you order a new outer barrel from TSD/UTG which should cost you about $30-40, or buy a PDI outer barrel for too much money.

I'd say to just go with the UTG outer barrel. It works just fine. The PDI outer barrel is kind of pointless.
Where can i get those? They dont have an official site. Wow your being so helpful thank you million times
 

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No prob. You'll have to call up their Customer Service or send them an email. The preceding will be waaaay faster.

(734)542-1500 This is the number I found on their website. It shooouuuuld put you through to customer service. Email is this: [email protected]
Well i live in europe... So theres my problem.. Will try.with.an email though. But.isnt.leapers distributor only?
 

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Nah, they sell directly too. Shipping shouldn't cost too much from the US to Europe. They sell individual parts real cheaply. I might end up giving them a call to order a new receiver, since my scope rail stripped and I don't want to re-tap the crappy metal.
 

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Nah, they sell directly too. Shipping shouldn't cost too much from the US to Europe. They sell individual parts real cheaply. I might end up giving them a call to order a new receiver, since my scope rail stripped and I don't want to re-tap the crappy metal.
They just pm-ed me the barrels are not for sale. What should i do?
 

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Try TSD?

http://www.airsoftsd.com/sd/contact

That's weird. They used to sell parts if you called them. If anything, start looking in the boneyards of airsoft retailers.
Well i cant give utg a call cuz i live in europe and.when.they.have.day.i have night. Maybe the person behind the computer didnt understand me thats all. Sent them new mail Explaining myself. Maybe they will oblige me this time.
 

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Boneyard stuff is usually good. I'd order it quick though because they go out quickly. More than likely, the only thing wrong with it is something in the trigger area.

Are you sure the gun is in stock? I didn't see any in stock.
 

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Boneyard stuff is usually good. I'd order it quick though because they go out quickly. More than likely, the only thing wrong with it is something in the trigger area.

Are you sure the gun is in stock? I didn't see any in stock.
Nah just after i wrote that i found out its out of stock. Any ideas where i would found 1? also the tsd doesnt respond. How do you call someone across the globe? Sry first time doing it. And is.it possible? Ita tough cuz when im awake you sleep.
 

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Not too sure about international calling, but I'd imagine you'd need some sort of phone plan that let's you call internationally or a phone card. Then, you'd have to stay up late and call them. Not too big of a deal. I sleep at... 4-5 am on average every night. 'tis the life of a bioengineering student.

Other than that, send them an email. Emails usually take at most 48 hours to respond.

Other than that, look around on other boneyards or classifieds. ASGI, Evike, Airsoft Atlanta, and a bunch of other sites have boneyards. ASSF, ASF, ASR, and lots of other forums have a classifieds section.
 

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Not too sure about international calling, but I'd imagine you'd need some sort of phone plan that let's you call internationally or a phone card. Then, you'd have to stay up late and call them. Not too big of a deal. I sleep at... 4-5 am on average every night. 'tis the life of a bioengineering student.

Other than that, send them an email. Emails usually take at most 48 hours to respond.

Other than that, look around on other boneyards or classifieds. ASGI, Evike, Airsoft Atlanta, and a bunch of other sites have boneyards. ASSF, ASF, ASR, and lots of other forums have a classifieds section.
I got a leapers response from another shop assistant. She said that we could get a deal for the barrel. Wish me luck
 
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