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Hey,I dont think it does but will a utg mk96 mag fit the echo1 m28 rifle?
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No, the E1 M28 has a hybrid mag design, that uses the L96 and the Bar-10's mag designs. I do not recomend the M28 if you have not bought it already, the Javelin M24 is a good gun though, Uses APS/Type 96 parts.
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Thanks for the help.
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I was wondering if the E1 M28 is a good bolt action or if the snow wolf is a better derection I would look at javalin's M24 but I've herd that they have a hop up problem and I have never tried working on a hop up before.
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I played against the m28 awhile back and I've got to say it's a pretty accurate rifle.
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You're very limited with after-market parts for the Echo1 M28.
One of the most important parts of the gun is the piston, and there's no metal replacement that you can put in without modification.
Slam-firing and replacement parts are just a few of the problems. And trust me, there's a lot
If you just want to buy and shoot, and NOT open up the gun+modify+ spend more money, then stay away from the Echo1 M28.
You'll probably be content for a while, but later realize it's a pain to fix.
One of the most important parts of the gun is the piston, and there's no metal replacement that you can put in without modification.
Slam-firing and replacement parts are just a few of the problems. And trust me, there's a lot
If you just want to buy and shoot, and NOT open up the gun+modify+ spend more money, then stay away from the Echo1 M28.
You'll probably be content for a while, but later realize it's a pain to fix.
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The rifle will slam fire. (period!) It it is never going to be a point of "maybe I got a good one and it won't slam-fire" It is only a matter of time, because it will slam-fire. Why? Because the rifle is outfitted with the sloppiest trigger group I have ever seen. If you go with the M28, here is what you will need minimum to make the rifle a reliable tool:
Decrease the factory spring by buying a 130 and installing it. This will help to keep the wear and tear on the internals to a minimum, while keeping the rifle playable.
Replace/rebuild the trigger group with a set of steel trigger sears. Airsoft GI has a nice set for $55. Replace every part with the Airsoft GI parts, and you will all but avert the dreaded slam fire issue... this includes the springs. The trigger group takes a little bit to break in, but once seated it works great.
Piston is fine like it is, especially since there are no "DIRECT" replacements available. The pistons sold by Evike are not direct as advertised, just so you will know.
Replace the bucking with a quality piece of your choice.
Barrel, if you so choose, is available through Airsoft GI. It is a 6.01 direct replacement, made by Masamune. It is a little better than stock, but not the best you could get... I like it for a mere $45 upgrade.
The magazines are hit and miss... all of them are. The hybrid design just flat fails in all plastic. You will want to get a couple of the metal replacement mags.
There are a slew of home-brew upgrades that you can perform yourself.
I have made quite a few videos on the M28, and posted them to my youtube channel. But I was getting far too many childish comments posted on them, that I made all of my airsoft videos private. If you want to review my complete listing of videos, I will send you the links to them, or post them here on this thread.
The M28 has issues, and there are enough upgrades available to keep it going, but none to make it a beast. Truth be told, I would have opted for a JG BAR-10, but the stocks on them are so "toy-like" that I just could not bring myself to get one.
I have benched my own M28, and I am now saving up for the M40 to be released from Aries later this year...
Decrease the factory spring by buying a 130 and installing it. This will help to keep the wear and tear on the internals to a minimum, while keeping the rifle playable.
Replace/rebuild the trigger group with a set of steel trigger sears. Airsoft GI has a nice set for $55. Replace every part with the Airsoft GI parts, and you will all but avert the dreaded slam fire issue... this includes the springs. The trigger group takes a little bit to break in, but once seated it works great.
Piston is fine like it is, especially since there are no "DIRECT" replacements available. The pistons sold by Evike are not direct as advertised, just so you will know.
Replace the bucking with a quality piece of your choice.
Barrel, if you so choose, is available through Airsoft GI. It is a 6.01 direct replacement, made by Masamune. It is a little better than stock, but not the best you could get... I like it for a mere $45 upgrade.
The magazines are hit and miss... all of them are. The hybrid design just flat fails in all plastic. You will want to get a couple of the metal replacement mags.
There are a slew of home-brew upgrades that you can perform yourself.
I have made quite a few videos on the M28, and posted them to my youtube channel. But I was getting far too many childish comments posted on them, that I made all of my airsoft videos private. If you want to review my complete listing of videos, I will send you the links to them, or post them here on this thread.
The M28 has issues, and there are enough upgrades available to keep it going, but none to make it a beast. Truth be told, I would have opted for a JG BAR-10, but the stocks on them are so "toy-like" that I just could not bring myself to get one.
I have benched my own M28, and I am now saving up for the M40 to be released from Aries later this year...
If there is a expert on the Echo 1 M28 i would think Dragon64 is it. I have watched most of his videos on the M28 and they have helped me alot. But as he stated It will slam fire as mine started doing I upgraded the first and second sears and ended up buying a whole new cylinder set and it works again.
I am now switching to a new sniper platform as the Echo 1 M28 is just not going to be getting any upgrades soon as far as i can tell.
I am now switching to a new sniper platform as the Echo 1 M28 is just not going to be getting any upgrades soon as far as i can tell.
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Could you please PM me the links or post them here?
I've worked on various M28 sniper rifles and I'd like to add to my notes if I've missed anything. Thank you :yup:
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These series of videos are simply fantastic :shot:
These videos could be posted on another thread and each given proper labels.
If you decide to do that, I'm voting that it's the perfect candidate for a sticky.
I watched all the videos posted above and it's a very thorough and informative primer for people considering buying an M28, or for those who have an M28 and need in-depth information.
Thanks for all your hard work and sharing your information! :bow:
These videos could be posted on another thread and each given proper labels.
If you decide to do that, I'm voting that it's the perfect candidate for a sticky.
I watched all the videos posted above and it's a very thorough and informative primer for people considering buying an M28, or for those who have an M28 and need in-depth information.
Thanks for all your hard work and sharing your information! :bow:
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Well I appreciate that, thanks. I have a long thread over at Arnie's, but it has somewhat degraded, as the rifle continues to disappoint new players who are still seeing the same issues go unfixed by the mfg or Echo1. A shame to, as the rifle was a nice looking build.
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There are no 'direct' replacement pistons for the M28. I know that Evike says their Matrix pistons fit, but they do not. Thos pistons are made for a zero trigger, not the stock 45 degree trigger... look at these two videos and you will see what a sham those pistons really are:
The Airsoft GI sears are a drop in, but they do need to be worked in a bit so they will seat right... by working in, I am referring to normal operation until they work smoothly... then you are good to go!
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Thank you Dragon Someone asked me about a piston replacement and you just confirmed my research.
I'll try out the sears as you recommended. I've always avoid house brands, but I'll give this one a shot.
Thank you once again!
Someone asked me about a piston replacement and you just confirmed my research. I'll try out the sears as you recommended. I've always avoid house brands, but I'll give this one a shot.
Thank you once again!
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I am looking to do some upgrading on my M28 soon. It hasn't slam fired yet so I like to keep it that way.
Does this rifle use VSR10 parts? I know the magazines and hop up is proprietary, but what about the cylinder and trigger group.?
Does this rifle use VSR10 parts? I know the magazines and hop up is proprietary, but what about the cylinder and trigger group.?
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The trigger box is a vsr, the cylinder and piston are a bit longer than vsr.
I am currently making M28 pistons and I fired my old machinist cause he was a slacker,lol..
I met up with another machinist Monday and we are gonna bust some out. I have a thread on here someplace about the piston. I am also building a website right now for this. Contact me if your wanting a new aluminum piston.
I am currently making M28 pistons and I fired my old machinist cause he was a slacker,lol..
I met up with another machinist Monday and we are gonna bust some out. I have a thread on here someplace about the piston. I am also building a website right now for this. Contact me if your wanting a new aluminum piston.
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How about making a trigger group as well.
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