Due to Newtons law (I think) "every action has an equal and opposite reaction." So since the piston is moving forward, the rifle will be pushing backwards equally against your shoulder. And from what I've heard, real shock scratches the dookie out of you cylinder.
Real Shock
I have heard of the real shock guns, which supposedly give some recoil by adding weight to the piston. I would think the recoil would be opposite it's supposed to be, as in away from you instead of hitting you. The fps would also decrease because of the weighted piston.
My question is, if this system actually works, could I just dig out some of the plastic in my old stock piston and put some steel or lead in there to give recoil? This is obviously not during games, but during free time when fooling around with the gun.
My question is, if this system actually works, could I just dig out some of the plastic in my old stock piston and put some steel or lead in there to give recoil? This is obviously not during games, but during free time when fooling around with the gun.
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I know about newton's laws. But right after the piston moves forward it is hitting the piston head which will make the rifle go forward and the piston bounce back.
I've heard that Tokyo Marui's Real Shock VSR-10 just increases the vibration, which we all know has a negative effect on the consistency of the shots.
Well of course adding a recoil effect will increase vibration, but by the time the piston slams into the cylinder head the bb should have already left.
I believe it would still throw off your accuracy. If the bb should be gone already, then why do barrel spacers help so much?Well of course adding a recoil effect will increase vibration, but by the time the piston slams into the cylinder head the bb should have already left.
It will still throw off your accuracy. It is a gimmick that doesn't really do you any good.
I'm fully aware it will not do me any good, and will decrease accuracy somewhat. I want to do this just for fooling around in my backyard, not for games. So my question is, how well does this system work for mimicking recoil. I know it will not feel like actual recoil, but I have shot low caliber rifles before and if we can make it feel like that, I would be happy
Not very well, in my opinion. If you want recoil you need a BV rifle or a GBBR.
Alright. I was just wondering if it was possible to do it without buying one of the GBBR's. I know the GBB's have some recoil but that also wastes some of the gas you have I think.
GBBR's have a similar system to a real steel gun. It uses gas pressure to cycle the bolt and give you semi/full auto capabilities. This is where the recoil comes from. The back pressure from the bolt cycling pushes against your shoulder and simulates recoil.
In compared to NBB it does waste gas.
As soon as you want to go from semi only to full auto you'll waste extra gas because more parts need to be moved within the system.
In compared to NBB it does waste gas.
As soon as you want to go from semi only to full auto you'll waste extra gas because more parts need to be moved within the system.
I know how a GBBR works, and I know how a real steel gun works. I'm saying I don't want a GBBR because you have to keep buying gas for it, and I'm on a tight budget. I wasn't questioning how guns work.
Sorry if I sound like a jerk, I'm not sure how to word it differently.
Sorry if I sound like a jerk, I'm not sure how to word it differently.
If you want real-feeling recoil, get either a GBBR or a BV gun with heavy recoil weights.
If you want your gun to shake a little, increase the weight of the piston mech.
If you want your gun to shake a little, increase the weight of the piston mech.
Sounds absolutely pointless to me. Does nothing but add problems.
Grass, the fact that you are saying that means you didn't read my previous posts. It is just something to play around with and to make it feel a bit more realistic when shooting targets. I have no doubt it would cause problems, but I wouldn't be using it in a game. It's just something to play around with.
Then get a GBBR and tap it for external gas. If you have a compressor you'll have unlimited gas by hooking the gun directly to the compressor (turn the regulator down of course). The gun would just be tethered to the compressor. You also won't really need extra mags if you're just target shooting.
and np.
and np.
There's the new G&G L96 GBB ... It's bolt action with a recoil system, it will use CO2 and it will also be a shell ejecting platform!
Here's a video about it
Wolf
Here's a video about it
Wolf
I did read your posts but I still think it is pointless to hinder your accuracy in the name of a very slight kick. Even with an m170 I can't see there being much worth to it, especially if it wrecks an expensive cylinder too.Grass, the fact that you are saying that means you didn't read my previous posts. It is just something to play around with and to make it feel a bit more realistic when shooting targets. I have no doubt it would cause problems, but I wouldn't be using it in a game. It's just something to play around with.
@Wolf - I just did a bit of research on it and it's supposed to come out in june. That looks awesome. I'm one of the people who wants as much realism as possible, AND as much performance as possible.
@Grass - As I said before, I know it will lower accuracy. It shouldn't wreck my cylinder though. People are using m210 springs with these cylinders, so a little kick with an m170 shouldn't do much too it. Especially if I take good care of it.
@Grass - As I said before, I know it will lower accuracy. It shouldn't wreck my cylinder though. People are using m210 springs with these cylinders, so a little kick with an m170 shouldn't do much too it. Especially if I take good care of it.
I only hope the new G96 has the performance and not just the features...!
Wolf
Wolf
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