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Reasonable DMR FPS Limits

20474 Views 13 Replies 11 Participants Last post by  cerboknight
(Figured this would apply more to general instead of Long Range AEGs, but if I've misplaced it, feel free to move it)

Hey snipers,

I've recently been having some debates at the field I volunteer at (along with 4 others, we run the place. It's non-profit). We've been playing on 30 acres of land for the last 2 years, and have had no issues with our FPS regulations. Our previous regulations that we used for 2 years were 0-280 FPS=no MED, 281-400=30ft MED, and anything 401-550=semi only, 100ft MED.

The issues all started when we had a volunteer begin to argue that another volunteer's SR-25 DMR running 500 FPS was incredibly overpowered, so he began running his tanaka m700 from 700-750 FPS to "Compete" and continues to argue that the DMR at 500 is overpowered (while he has drawn blood many times from 200ft).

So the last few weekends, we've been talking about reducing the FPS of DMRs/Snipers. He wants the limits to be AEG=400, DMR=450, and Bolt=550. Personally, I think 400/500/600 would be perfectly fair, however, he continues to claim that the DMR has very few cons compared to an AEG or BASR. He argues that with a fast trigger response, you can fire a semi-auto DMR at 10+ RPS (He uses my Polarstar PR-15 as a base for his argument, due to the instant trigger response), and that the 50 FPS is a generous advantage for penetration of brush and leaves. I've basically told him that 99% of DMRs are standard AEGs, which, even with a mosfet and 11.1v lipo, still can only reach around 4 RPS on semi. He also completely ignores the fact that DMs do not pull the trigger as quickly as possible, and thinks of them as paintballers who simply want to lay down fire.

Myself and the other DMR who volunteer's at our field have tried to convince him that a mere 50 FPS increase while losing full auto capabilities and having a longer engagement distance is simply devastating to DMs, but he claims that the 50 FPS advantage was dramatic. We suggested 400/500/600, yet he shot it down. I tried to compromise at 400/475/550, a 75 FPS increase per tier, yet he didn't like that either. I'm not worried about the advantage of a BASR over a DMR, more the advantage of an AEG over a DMR.

If anyone has any arguments against his proposal of 400/450/550 that I haven't mentioned, or some extra aspects of mine, I'd really appreciate. Also, if you believe that I'm wrong for the FPS that I'm suggesting, please post here as well and give me reasons why. Also, if you have alternate suggestions for our FPS rules, possibly via magazine capacity, or any other means, please post them here.

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In Alabama most of us treat DMRs and Snipers rifles differently than the majority does. DMRs are allowed 450FPS with a 75' MED and retain select-fire controls but are restricted to mid and low-cap magazines and they must look like real-life DMRs (scopes, full stocks, 20' barrels...). Sniper rifles are allowed to 550FPS with a 100' MED and can be both bolt-action or semi-auto but can only use low-cap magazines and must look like real life sniper rifles (scopes, full stocks, 20' barrels, large calibers...). DMRs and SAWs are the polar opposites but we still consider them to be used in a support role with squad tactics. Snipers are usually by themselves or have a spotter near by but are basically on their own. As far as milsim goes, we think this is more realistic in terms of matching the use of small arms by military around the world. What are you supposed to do with a .50cal AEG, give them a 450FPS cap just because they are semi-only? Thats just as unrealistic as saying any 450FPS replica can be a DMR, MP5s and the like.

Ronnok, I would tell the guy complaining about DMR/Sniper FPS/MED rules to take a hike. A ref that decides to break the rules (700FPS) just undermines everyone else's authority and sends the wrong message to the younger crowd. The Polarstar is just coming to market and barely a legitimate example. A LRB equipped BV classic shooting at 1.48j (400FPS) can out range most replicas at 250++' and still would only have a 30'MED and has full-auto. Much better example, but it doesn't mean you should ban replicas that have been around as long as 25 years. If someone is willing to spend $850+ in a semi-only sniping platform, I would say more power to them. I would rather deal with the one irresponsible rich brat than send a man home thats serious about airsoft. And then I'd ask them if I could shoot it.

I don't like your 281-400FPS regs but its y'alls field. I think there is too much role diversity to lump stock Marui performance with others like KWA. That and 281 feels very different than 400 from 30'. I would also consider chrono'ing in joules and require people to chrono with the BB they skirmish with instead of .2g BB due to the velocity differences you can get in both AEGs and especially gas powered replicas.
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