[fortjp500]

I have an R-hop installed in my ICS M16 and currently it shoots 350fps with .2s. I have a hard eraser as a nub and a stock barrel. I can get 75-80 yards with G4 brand .28s. My question is will my range increase if I use .40s in this setup? Or is .40s too high for an R-hop in an AEG at 350fps ? Sorry mods i meant to start as a new thread not an add on (if you saw my other post).

 

[Cheese Man]

Yes. Heavy, quality bbs will, in a well-tuned setup, always produce more range.

I use .4s at 280 fps (with a .2) so they aren't too heavy

 

[Masterjuggler98]

The r-hop will work with and stand up to pretty much anything you can throw at it.

You actually want the softest nub you can get for the r-hop. The foam from a nerf dart works great, but you need to completely turn the hop off when you are done to avoid compressing the foam permanently.

By the way Cheese, what bbs do you use? Last I heard, you use .3 bioshots.

 

[fortjp500]

have you heard anything good about G4 orange .40s?

 

[JcCustoms]

have you heard anything good about G4 orange .40s?

I'm pretty sure they're just a rebrand of Madbull's, WE's, Etc....

I'm currently using some WE .40's and to my surprise they are actually pretty good (and cheap to boot!). Cracked a few open last night and only a few had very small bubbles in them. I previously had WE .36 and they were terrible. Bad batch maybe?

 

[Cheese Man]

I use Goldenball .32s now, along with my bioshot .3s.

I had a bottle of .4s so I decided to try them in my rifle at a super low fps to prove a point at the field. 12 hits later, all from between 90 and 113 meters away, nobody questioned me again

 

[vipergr]

So to get it clear, after R-hop i must use the m-nub in order to use heavy ammo. Currently i use only r-hop with 310fps(.2) and iam throwing 0.25s at an ok distance but not great. If i use the nub i will gain distance or i will throw at the same distance heavier ammo?
When i tried to throw 0.36s it had terrible results.

 

[Masterjuggler98]

It doesn't affect what weight of bbs can be used. What it does is put even pressure on the r-hop so it puts a more consistent and stable backspin on the bb. With the r-hop, you can hop pretty much any weight bb that is available.

You probably want something a little heavier than .25g, maybe .3 or higher.

There is a thread I made called the "r-hop database", which I have linked to in my sig. Look through the threads linked there and you will probably find what you are looking for.

 

[vipergr]

Οκ but you are not answering my question. I must use m-nub or not? with 0.36 and just r-hop it cant lift it. So maybe i messed it up or i must use m-nub.

 

[raultiger]

About those g4 bbs....they are rebrands of Action Army bbs... which are terrible. Almost every bb has some sort of defect and are very inconsistent. They are sloppily made and have low quality control. I would stay away from them.

 

[Masterjuggler98]

Well is it jamming before it lifts it, or is it just not putting enough pressure to even stop the bb? If it can't even stop the bb, you have a problem with the hopup where the arm isn't going far enough.

More likely though, you don't have even pressure on the r-hop. You need the r-hop to apply even pressure to the bb along the entire length of the patch. This is where the soft nub comes in. Unlike the regular nub which applies pressure to a specific spot, it will conform to the r-hop and apply pressure along the entire length.

You don't NEED the soft nub, but it sure helps. Also, you can use other things besides the m-nub, most of the materials you already have at home. Go look in my r-hop database thread, and there are multiple threads talking about what nub material to use and how to put it on.

The reason we aren't answering very specifically is because we don't know every detail. We don;t know if there is a problem with the hop chamber, if you installed something wrong, or even if you just didn't sand the patch down correctly. We are trying to generalize our answers so they may help.

 

[vipergr]

Thanks for the reply. In my set up it was my first try experimenting with the r-hop and the patch does not cover the entire barrel window by my mistake. With hop up off it still shoots bb's at small distance, but with 0.36 and almost full hop up dialed it struggles to shoot it. If i used the m-nub or similar will i get better results?

 

[Cheese Man]

You need to replace the patch. The bb is probably contacting the edge of the barrel window.

 

[fortjp500]

i use g4 .28s and they seem fine out to 75/80 yards. Ill give the g4 .40s a chance since they are cheap and report back. On a side note i installed 50d sorbothane cut in a rectangle as my rhop nub and it works very nicely. It gives a bit more than the Mnub and still never compresses over time. Have you tried this route?

 

[fortjp500]

The G4 .40s were impressive in terms of consistency and range. With my ICS M16 I get first shot hits on semi to a man sized target at 70 yards with no wind. The bbs are cheap and after a good washing they perform. Another good thing is the quality is pretty consistent. When washing the bbs (a bottle of 2000 with was only 16 bucks) I inspected each bb for imperfections. Out of 2000 I only found 5 that needed taken out. These five bbs were not even that bad but they looked a bit different from all the rest. For the price I say they are worth a shot. Let me know if anyone else had good results with them.