Ok, so as many of you know, I am currently building an HK417 and I got to thinking... I might need a new sidearm, because I'm starting to get tired of my KWA USP .45 and it just... I don't know, just something is lacking in it. It's great as a rifleman load out, since it's light, and gets the job done when needed, but when going out as a DM, it doesn't perform well enough inside the 100 ft engagement zone for DM's (when you just get stuck in that situation that every DM/Sniper hates... blown cover). I'm looking into SMGs (use a weapon catch as a holster as it works pretty well), or Burst fire pistols (M93r example), but am still open to Semi-pistols, since it won't waste as much ammo. What do you guys think would be my best option? I'll be running the HK417 with a CIRAS vest, NO leg subload, Back load, and limited space on the front. FPS must be reduceable to under 350fps.
I just don't want another USP.
SMG models I'm open to:
-KMP9
-MP7
-anything not a MAC11a1 or UZI
Burst Pistols:
-any ideas welcome
Pistol models:
-M9
-1911
-Glock
-P226
-Walthers
-NO Revolvers
-and would like to avoid WE
Please just list your suggestion with
a)Model
b)Brand
c)Price
d)Pros
e)cons
f)personal experience, known issues, etc.
I say m9 all day long. The only regret I have about my KJW m9 is that it's not a lot of customization available. As for performance mind you, my m9 is amazingly accurate( see one shot one kill) out to 70 ft or so... So if your like me and enjoy the hunt, or if someone pops up in your MED you can easily own them. Plus I use a l96 so the rate of fire makes me feel more secure.
MP7 blows the M9 out of the water. If you're planning to stay in one spot, set it next to you or have it on a sling to reduce the draw time. Its mag dwarfs the M9's as well, and ROF is phenomanal. It also has rails for optics / lasers if you choose.
Well if you are going to get a automatic pistol then I would go with the kwa mp7. If you are going for semi auto them I am a big fan of 1911's. KWA is always a good brand to go with and TM also.
Bashing the m9 huh? Well firstly there is a reason the 1911 was finally replaced. It's called Beretta. Secondly I just stated the m9's reliability, and accuracy. As a sidearm is serves its purpose, and exceeds them. The mp7 is of course badass. But he asked about the m9, and I love mine so....
WHICH is still highly controversial. Much of the reason was for cost... Don't get me wrong, I think that the M9 is a beautiful gun, but cutting out half of the slide... It's funny they were shocked by slide failures :lmao:
While I think it's cool, I just think the M1911 is a more classic, and reliable option... However, I think we're going too deeply into real steel-like conversation. Both will be fine choices.
Oh yeah, the M1911 is on the list of pistols to replace the M9... Kind of ironic, eh?:shrug:
Yeah the mp7 is a sweet gun lol. I've caught myself contemplating the price tag several times lol. The only problem I can see with the mp7 besides the price is holster ability...
Jeez thanks guys
I'm not sure whether to go MP or Standard pistol style. I really like the machine pistol, but it is quite a bit heavier, and bulkier, while the Standard may yes be sized nicely, its volume of fire and ammo capacity as well as accuracy seem to sufffer.. You guys are really helping me though so BIG thanks to you guys :cheers:
I have the KWA MP7, and I love it. It's an extremely solid and realistic gun. Take-down is simple, and the CQB bolt makes it easy to reduce the velocity. It's a very accurate gun and the ROF is great, the extended clips help sustain it. It even works well as a primary for CQB.
Thanks guys,
@chrisgunny, Probably gonna get the MP7, I love the looks and it seems like it'll do the job perfectly!
@Migafox, You're right there, I think I'll get the MP7, but also buy a threaded outer for my USP and some other simple unprades.
Thanks everyone for your tips, suggestions, and feedback!
Decision has been made
-KWA MP7 with CQB bolt, mock suppressor (custom), 3 position stock bars, extended mags x3, holster
-threaded outer for USP, mock suppressor, longer inner (possibly), sight work, hop work
KWA Mp7 and kjw 1911. The nice thing about the KWA Mp7 is you can use it as a back up or a primary if your spotting. Its a must if you have a blot action rifle. The kjw 1911 is also a stand alone backup.
I would go for a MP7 or an AEP aswell. I've seen nice AEP glock from TM and Cyma, they shoot in full auto or in semi and are great because they do not change when it's cold outside.
I second what Shinny said. Get a Glock AEP. The SMG although small, it's huge compared to a Glock, even if you get a leg holster for it, you'd still be running funny. Other pro's include cold weather operation and magazine size and weight.
You can even get a CAA Roni Carbine Kit, and convert it to a SMG platform that allows optics and an adjustable buttstock.
It actually doesn't. It gives you a choice pre-game. You can either just use the pistol in challenging terrain, where mobility is key, or use the SMG kit if there's a chance for multiple CQB situations.
Ah, that makes sense. I stand corrected! :doh::shot:
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