[fenrir]

hey I am looking into getting a better pistol for winter play. Any decent electric or non-blowbacks (I understand they work better during the winter?). I currently have a K98 pistol but it just doesn't work well during the winter.

 

[bobthefluffer]

Gas don't work well in low temp.

Not sure on the electric.

 

[phridum]

CO2? I haven't any cold weather experience for performance, but it's pretty hard hitting.

 

[fenrir]

Well generally Green Gas doesn't seem to work as well during the winter. But also I have found that blowbacks are nice because of their effect or realism BUT the extra gas expended to move the slide causes a lost in power. So from what some people have told me non blowback pistols don't move the slide hence more gas is expended in moving the round instead of the round and the slide. I am just wondering if this will help the gun work more effective in winter time? Or does it make no deference what time of gas pisol you use?

 

[raptoreye]

We have it clear that gas pistols don't work well in winter. Some fields don't allow C02, so that might be out of the question. It seems that you should go for an electric. But you need to remember that winter is just one season, so are you getting a pistol just for winter or just a completely new one?

 

[fenrir]

I am looking for a completely new one but that will also work better for winter play, and the fields down here have no problem with CO2 pistols.

 

[raptoreye]

Oh, okay then. But, how much of a difference is green gas to CO2, they are both gasses and they both lose pressure in cold weather? If you really don't want problems at all in cold weather, than just buy an expensive electric pistol.

 

[fenrir]

any suggestions on a good electric?

 

[spartan]

Tokyo marui Glock 17 AEP.


Edit: Meant 18c not 17 sorry.

 

[raptoreye]

Tokyo marui Glock 17 AEP.

Or an 18c, I think those are more widespread.

 

[vindicareassassin]

Just got a chinesey copy of the TM Glock 18c, as over here its cold for half the year, F***ing cold for 1 quater and reasonably warm the rest it is reasonable in feel and power, about 170 fps out of the box, with a range of about 20 ft. with a bit of tinkering it should go out to our 30 metre MED Yet to be combat tested though good thing about it is you can get the hi cap mags for it, holding 60 or so rounds, though they are very long when in the gun.

 

[raptoreye]

Haha, holy crap. I didn't think that hic-caps for pistols could hold that many rounds. It kind of makes sense since the 18c has an automatic mode.

 

[squirrely]

My take would be a TM G18C for AEP's and HFC M190 for when you can use gas
I have used both although I usually just use the m190 (Well built and shoots hard)

And for the price you can't really go wrong

 

[vindicareassassin]

Just for you Raptoreye

See what i mean about Loooong ! Real thing would be 30 rounds

 

[palanthas]

I have a Green gas HFC G17 Blow back. Its handled fairly well, granted I haven't shot it much during the winter. One of my team mates had a green gas and as most know it doesn't like the cold much, got to the point of holding the mag in his hand to keep the gas warm till he would take a shot then pull it out and hold it again.

As for Green Gas vs. CO2. my only other pistol is a CO2 glock. 'fraid I don't know the make. Some off brand I bought years ago at Dunhams sports. The CO2 definitely shoot harder then the green gas. It is a non blow back. As far as weather has been concerned, I have had little to no issues with temp.

Agreed though, blow back does look cooler even though it expends a bit more gas for the blow back function. If you worried then about gas getting expensive, CO2 is cheap. Least, I think it is... Green gas tends to be a bit more expensive. So your options there are, eat the price and buy the gas, or buy an adapter and go to propane. Just make sure your vigilant about adding oil to your gun as that is what green gas is, propane/oil mix.

 

[phridum]

The M190 is what Evike sent me. It's packaged by TSDtactical and says it's the HG190 or 190 Special Force or HFC M190 depending on where you look!

I did a little photo op with it today...

 

[Wandall]

vindicare, is that what happens when a pistol meets nightstick? xD =D

 

[vindicareassassin]

No, its what happens if you stroke the standard mag to vigorously

 

[fenrir]

thanks guys I shall look into some of the electric pistols possibly any clue on the fps, how accurate and the range of the 18c or 17?

 

[vindicareassassin]

The the one i have is the Cyma version, FPS out of the box is 170, range about 20 ft, accuracy is resonable.

After i gave it some luv by ptfe taping all the hop and cylinder, cleaning the hop rubber and fitting a slightly heavier spring, FPS - 190, Range - 30 ft, Accuracy - bloody good considering the power