[Greenlurker]

Hello Sharf,


Im pretty new here to and in airsoft, but this place has all the advanced info you are gonna need later on.

I very visuel, to me, seing while shit gets explained is understanding. So i hit youtube hard, search for hop up chamber and watch some videos, they Will explain the basics. Take you gun appart and it Will start to make sence .
Then come back here and read as much as you Can, and hit youtube again

Best regards

Greenlurker

 

[Siggi]

Im still very new to this, but how do hop up chambers, arms, and buckings actually work? What would you recommend for these three parts?

The hop-up chamber contains the hop-up parts, the breech-end of the barrel and usually the mechanism (or place) where the BBs are fed from the mag.

The arms are the part of the hop-up that bear down on the nub. The nub is a pliable piece of material that bears down on the bucking.

The bucking is the rubber sleeve that fits over the breech-end of the barrel like the finger of a glove, a small part of which is made to protrude into the barrel through a small window such that it pushes onto the top of the BB as it is fired and gives it a rotational spin along its forward axis. This causes the 'Magnus Effect', turning the BB into a kind of wing and making it float further through the air instead of dropping like a brick.

The arm is usually adjustable, so that more or less of the bucking is forced into contact with the BB (fine-tuning flight-time and trajectory).

 

[gaspar]

Hello, can somebody do the 20 meter shooting accuracy test with VSR-10 and upload it to airsoftaccuracy.com. I would like to compare the results with my CYMA M24. Approximately every 10th shoot is a flyer, not sure is this normal. Otherwise spread would be in 8x8 cm. Thanks.

 

[Anythingoes]

Hay guys. New here an just had a few quick questions.

First, sorry for the necromancy but this is a very thorough and detailed thread with a lot of knowledge. Seems a shame it's gone out of sight.

I'm waiting to start a build on a Well mb03, well I am waiting for it to arrive.

I wanted to know your thoughts on this as a stable base for a 80m+ build on a budget?

I was hoping to keep the build below £250 if I can.

I would love an AA trigger an piston set but I think that is a little rich for me, so you think the AA sears in the well trigger box with the 90degree piston will be okay?

The hop unit.. Can you advise on a good hop or at least a hop arm that will help me achieve this goal?

Also what are your recommendations on bucking? Or maybe S-hop?

Again sorry for digging up an old one, but it's a great guide.

Cheers

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[oiric]

Personally i went with parts from Airsoftpro in my MB03.
I'm using the 2nd gen Airsoftpro trigger (3rd gen had a way too heavy triggerpull and it's not adjustable) and full airsoftpro cylinder-kit (cylinder, piston, spring and guide). I combined it all with an Airsoftpro barrel (i think :S) and a very simple guarder bucking for VSR. No mods have been made really apart from some hot glue in the hop-arm to make the pressure on the bucking more even.

I'm currently hitting at about 90m (measured) and i'm using ASG 0,4g BBs and a 150-spring.


As for hop; i've been getting good results with the Guarder standard VSR bucking tbh. Did in my last build too.
I didn't like how the arm applied pressure so i dabbed some hot glue on it and shaved it until i was happy with it.
The original chamber is more than good enough, no need for a fancier one. If anything, a TDC-mod might the only thing "necessary".

 

[Hydra]

anything goes i believe new sears will suit you ok but that means that you will have to use a 45 degree piston not 90.

 

[ben65]

Upgrade Help

I have a JG Bar 10 and my goal is to eventually have a completely upgraded gun. The cost for the upgrades will cost about $380, but I want to separate them into sections. The newer Bar 10 comes with a full metal trigger box (assuming this also includes sears that are pretty durable). So my idea is to first put in a AA hop up, Madbull Accelerator and a AA 6.01 TBB. And if the trigger box, as mention earlier, can hold a slightly stronger spring (shoots 410 out of box so maybe a 450 spring). So for a while I would be just using the main accuracy parts with .32g BBs (if I were to keep the stock spring in and used .32s I would be shooting about 324). Then I would upgrade to a AA Zero Trigger, AA 90degree piston, heftier spring and new cylinder down the road. So my questions are, 1.)Would the idea of only upgrading hopup/barrel and keep stock trigger box work? 2.)If that idea would work could the sears hold a little bit of a stronger spring?
The reason for AA parts, from what I understand everyone has their split opinion of Laylax or PDI. And AA is just a clone of Laylax and some even say AA is better than Laylax as they have fixed some common problems Laylax parts have.
Thanks,
Ben

 

[shien]

-White lithium grease on the cylinder unit: This grease allows for easier bolt pull. It also works great on your cylinder guide rings and allows for easiest bolt pull without damaging your parts. It slows the wear down process. With that said, be sure to put a dab on the spring guide stopper and piston/trigger sears as well. Doing so will allow for smooth operation of your rifle.

Can I use silicon spray on the cylinder unit instead of white lithium grease?

 

[Reliku]

Yes, works well. In fact, it's what I use. Just apply a very tiny amount, you don't want oil getting into your chamber :yup:

 

[shien]

Thanks Reliku.

On the subject of hop-up bucking and chamber, is it ok to use a nineball flat bucking on a stock bar10-G hop-up chamber? upgrade parts made by action army/laylax are hard to find and expensive if you do find one in my country

For more accuracy and range which is better, nineball flat or maple leaf diamond/autobot?

I understand that maple leafs only work with unbridged barrels, would a nineball bucking have any issues if you use it on an unbridged barrel if it case you switch between maple leaf and nineball?

 

[Reliku]

The nineball or PDI W-hold (both good choices for bridged barrels) also work on unbridged ones. The ML also works in the stock chamber just like the other two bug you need a different hopup arm. Same goes for the W-hold by the way.

Might wanna read this :tup:

http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/4...le-leaf-buckings-why-you-should-use-them.html

 

[Gekkwaldz]

Hello new here to this forum iam sorry if i use this Thread to ask this question

So i bought a vsr second hand from a guy and this guy had installed a ASG-ASW338LM cylinder

Was planning to put in a action army hopup and innerbarrel

i was wondering though are the cylinder compitable to the hopup or do i have to invest in a new cylinder my budget is kinda low atm =/

 

[ThatBar10Guy]

Sorry to post on an old post, new user here. I did some pretty intense digging over a period of about 2 months about what should be upgraded when and in most important order and found that an AA zero trigger would be the best first upgrade so I went and bought that sling with my bar 10. I also want to make a very well working suppressor that may or may not look the nicest due to size. Besides those, what other upgrades or items should I buy for my attempt at converting from a standard m4 runner to a sniper?

 

[Simonwwfc]

Just ordered sniper one piston at £44.99 and yet another new spring m150 sniper one gold for mine today , just gonna order all my bits from airsoft sniper parts UK on same build spec they have done

 

[Horus SniperScout]

im searching for information on the TSD SD 702 , what parts will fit it . what can anybody tell me about it ...
thank you kindly in advance

 

[BlackDogAirsoft]

Response to richardmid1's post that said this.
Forget the huge barrel spacers, just a bit of plumbing tape round the end of the inner barrel so it doesn't rattle around inside the barrel end cap.

Forget plumbing tape round the cylinder head threads, YOU DON'T LOOSE ANY AIR THERE!, just a better fitting piston O ring or double up like I did or do whatever you can to get a better piston seal, this is where most air pressure is lost.

BB's veering off? Your hop up isn't centered. If you don't have a left right adjustable hop up simply look down the barrel from the hop up end and see which way its leaning and simply file down one of the hop up arm prongs until the bucking protrudes evenly into the top of the barrel.

My stock Well MB03 hits 520fps and fires straight till out of sight with these simple cheap mods.[/QUOTE]
What you have put here richardmid1 is kind of ridiculous.
1) barrel spacers stop vibration along the length of the barrel and they do help. The well mb03 has stock metal barrel spacers which you can't take out so I don't know how you could know about barrel spacers. Maybe, you did not know this and therefore had a low opinion of barrel spacers. Your gun already has them.
2) I have a well mb03 and was forced to replace the cylinder because it had terrible air seal. I tried Teflon tape, double O-rings. Nothing worked.
3) The thing about the hopup unit kind of makes sense, but you must be using low weight bbs for it to work, the stock hopup unit suffers from chronic under hop.
4) The well mb03 does not hit 520fps stock. I have chronoed it. Many stores have chronoed it. It is 450fps maximum.
Basically, either you have a very special gun, or you bought it second hand and it was pre-upgraded, or you have false information, or you a putting false info on this forum. I am a well mb03 owner, I should know.