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TK AEG - Anyone Got Any Experience?
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Maybe I am just too tired, but what is a TK AEG?
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An AEG with a Tanio Koba Twist barrel installed, that shoots at under 330 fps with whatever gram bb that is being used. Sorry - that may not have been very clear.
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OOOHHHH! Do they even make TK barrels anymore? I haven't seen a thread about them for years.
They do but they are very hard to come by in the states.
What exactly are you trying to understand about Tanio Koba Barrels?
What you have already posted is pretty much correct.
I use one in my TM AK Beta (Chronos @ 310fps w/ .25g - 1.11j ) but I run .28g in it.
I get 150-170ft accurate with it.
What exactly are you trying to understand about Tanio Koba Barrels?
What you have already posted is pretty much correct.
I use one in my TM AK Beta (Chronos @ 310fps w/ .25g - 1.11j ) but I run .28g in it.
I get 150-170ft accurate with it.
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Nothing, just if anyone has any personal experience with it in a DMR.
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You are better off just using a regular TBB, it will be cheaper and more effective.
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But with that, you have to upgrade other parts, and that will cost a lot more. Also, having a lower FPS setting will make it so that you have essentially no MED. Also, it is good for people with unusually low FPS limits.
I have one in my bolty, I am just wondering if anyone has one in their AEG.
I have one in my bolty, I am just wondering if anyone has one in their AEG.
Whoever said DMRs are cheap?
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A TK barrel does not offer a simple solution. It was designed for the Japanese market and their crappy velocities laws. DBC tried to create twist barrels for the US market and they ran out of cash years ago.
The TK barrel performance from what I understand is finicky at best. If it works with at 328FPS regardless of joules then we are talking about something else and I have not heard of anything to support that. From what I have heard ever since they came out is that they work at 1J or 328FPS w/ .2g BBs not just 328FPS. BIG DIFFERENCE! If that was the case you could use .28g BBs in almost any stock ACM AEG with a TK to get the expected results and I'm sure if this was true we could buy them anywhere. Like I said, the simple fix requires $200+, sweat, blood and tears.
Cheap route from scratch:
Semi-only selector plate mod unless your local field allows full-auto for DM like mine.
$8 for another selector plate
$15 KWA 2GX hopup bucking
$60 TBB (ie Prommy 509mm 6.03)
$5 shims (Modify or Prommy set for very close shim jobs)
$15 Bearing spring guide
$15 Prommy MS-135 or other other 450FPS spring
$50 G&P M160 motor or another neodymium magnet motor (matrix is cheap but not as good)
$40 Prometheus Hard type piston (still need to correct AOE)
Should be near 17rps which is enough for a quick trigger response.
Thats pretty close, you need a battery if you don't have a 9.6v large battery and I'm assuming your gears are not poopoo. I'm also assuming you do not have a 7mm MB or plastic bearings.
But yeah, after you can get the system running then you have the headache of getting the most out of it and getting the velocity consistent enough to place shots at range.
Add a active breaking mosfet later and rewire your gear box with 14ga wire at the same time. You could also switch to Deans Ultra plugs.
The TK barrel performance from what I understand is finicky at best. If it works with at 328FPS regardless of joules then we are talking about something else and I have not heard of anything to support that. From what I have heard ever since they came out is that they work at 1J or 328FPS w/ .2g BBs not just 328FPS. BIG DIFFERENCE! If that was the case you could use .28g BBs in almost any stock ACM AEG with a TK to get the expected results and I'm sure if this was true we could buy them anywhere. Like I said, the simple fix requires $200+, sweat, blood and tears.
Cheap route from scratch:
Semi-only selector plate mod unless your local field allows full-auto for DM like mine.
$8 for another selector plate
$15 KWA 2GX hopup bucking
$60 TBB (ie Prommy 509mm 6.03)
$5 shims (Modify or Prommy set for very close shim jobs)
$15 Bearing spring guide
$15 Prommy MS-135 or other other 450FPS spring
$50 G&P M160 motor or another neodymium magnet motor (matrix is cheap but not as good)
$40 Prometheus Hard type piston (still need to correct AOE)
Should be near 17rps which is enough for a quick trigger response.
Thats pretty close, you need a battery if you don't have a 9.6v large battery and I'm assuming your gears are not poopoo. I'm also assuming you do not have a 7mm MB or plastic bearings.
But yeah, after you can get the system running then you have the headache of getting the most out of it and getting the velocity consistent enough to place shots at range.
Add a active breaking mosfet later and rewire your gear box with 14ga wire at the same time. You could also switch to Deans Ultra plugs.
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No, that is the point! Mine shoots at 360 ish with a .2, and because I use .32s, it all works! The issue with higher velocities is that the bb exits before the air has time to build in the barrel. With heavier bbs, a higher velocity is okay, and still does work!
Still though, does anyone have one?
Still though, does anyone have one?
M16
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Precision_Barrels_AEG_AEP_Tanio_Koba_Hop_Twist_Barrel_for_Marui_M16A2_509mm.htm
M4
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Precision_Barrels_AEG_AEP_Tanio_Koba_Hop_Twist_Barrel_for_Marui_M4A1_SIG551_SR_L_364_363mm.htm
Good Luck!
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Precision_Barrels_AEG_AEP_Tanio_Koba_Hop_Twist_Barrel_for_Marui_M16A2_509mm.htm
M4
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Precision_Barrels_AEG_AEP_Tanio_Koba_Hop_Twist_Barrel_for_Marui_M4A1_SIG551_SR_L_364_363mm.htm
Good Luck!
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No, no, no. I already have one in my BASR. I know they are excellent. However, I don't know anything tangible about AEG performance, especially ones that have been heavily upgraded.
I would put one in, but I don't want an AEG, and I don't have one.
Never mind, if no one has one, that is fine. No problems there.
I would put one in, but I don't want an AEG, and I don't have one.
Never mind, if no one has one, that is fine. No problems there.
I have already told you I use one in my AK Beta.
I tried one in my Bolt Action but the performance was far from exceptional.
The TK barrel works fantastically in a very narrow energy output (ie.. .98j - 1.2j with a Sphere style BB)
Anything greater than 1.2j and the Rifling effect is transferred to the BB spin negating the Hop-up..
but you could maximize the rifling effect if you use a pellet like the RAP4 Airfin. The down side is you have to hand load each shot.
http://www.rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-airfin-1000-p-2943.html
I tried one in my Bolt Action but the performance was far from exceptional.
The TK barrel works fantastically in a very narrow energy output (ie.. .98j - 1.2j with a Sphere style BB)
Anything greater than 1.2j and the Rifling effect is transferred to the BB spin negating the Hop-up..
but you could maximize the rifling effect if you use a pellet like the RAP4 Airfin. The down side is you have to hand load each shot.
http://www.rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-airfin-1000-p-2943.html
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I know, I meant in a dedicated marksman rifle.
I have read up on them, but research only goes so far, and I was wondering if anyone actually had one that they could post up about.
I have read up on them, but research only goes so far, and I was wondering if anyone actually had one that they could post up about.
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