[chaoticairsofter]

I want to know your guys opinion on which gun to get.I hear amazing thing from both and would like to know if anyone has had experience with both.I like the look factor of both and the upgrade parts at Airsoft Atlanta seems to have plenty of L96 parts.Let me know what you guys think.Also feel free to post pictures I need some insperation.Thanks!!

 

[awagg]

Both guns do have tons of upgrade parts. The VSR maybe a little bit more, but really, just go with what you like. Either one will be able to be upgraded nicely.

 

[fuzzywolly]

I hate to be the nagging grandma here, but please start putting spaces between your sentences. It makes it much easier to read.

 

[jdangit]

I own the TM L96AWS, and after doing a lot of looking around on the web there is a lot more parts available for the VSR. That being said I wouldnt trade my L96 for any other rifle, the accuracy is on par with the other 3 Marui's I own.... I sure wouldnt mind getting my hands on a VSR in the near future to do some comparing

Im sure what ever one you pick will treat you well.

 

[chaoticairsofter]

Thanks, I think i'm pretty set on the VSR 10. It's cheaper and it seems to perform just as well.

 

[woogie]

They do perform very close to the same. Though the L96 has the looks as well as the mag in the propper place. So that alone is what sold the L96 to me. Now mind you I got it on monday of this week, and I have only been able to fiddle with it for a few hours. But as of right now, this is going to be my main weapon for what looks like a long while.

Everything is very robust and very well built. I like it much more than I did my VSR to be honest.

Though again, it is up to you. Airsoft Atlanta has a ton of parts for them both. So if there is anything that you need for either of them, just look there.

 

[cerboknight]

I've owned one and shot the real steel fairly often, after comparing the two I wasn't impressed.

The TM rendition seems very toy like and doesn't have the heft the real steel has, the Tanaka IMO is a much better choice in terms of build quality and realism. But of course, the TM being spring powered will probably give better results.

Hope this helps a bit.

 

[chaoticairsofter]

I might have to reconsider. The l96 does look bettering my opinion, though how heavy is it? Im 5"1 and 105 pounds but fairly strong so I don't want to be lugging the weapon around. If I do decide the l96 I'll have to save up some more, my dad has promised to help with half and right now I have 150$. Thanks for the help and if someone could give me the weight that would be awesome!

 

[fuzzywolly]

I might have to reconsider. The l96 does look bettering my opinion, though how heavy is it? Im 5"1 and 105 pounds but fairly strong so I don't want to be lugging the weapon around. If I do decide the l96 I'll have to save up some more, my dad has promised to help with half and right now I have 150$. Thanks for the help and if someone could give me the weight that would be awesome!

The l96, while easy to lug around despite its weight (includes scope, bbs, bipod), is a long rifle. With its big fat stock and long outer barrel, it can be a hassle to carry around at times. Given the fact that you are 5 foot one, and only 105 pounds, you might want to go with a smaller rifle. Not saying you are not strong enough to handle it, but it is just going to be massive on you.

 

[woogie]

When the rifle was shipped to me it was 11 pounds with the box and all the packing material. I would put the weight of the rifle, and my scope at around 9-10 lbs right now. But being as it is very well balanced, you shouldn't have a problem.

And if you are worried about the length, both laylax and PDI make a short outer barrel for the rifle. It takes the inner barrel from 500mm to 380mm. Just need to wait for my next paycheck and I will be getting one of those on order.

 

[chaoticairsofter]

Well considering my SPR is eight pounds I think I might save up and get the L96. I don't know though so be on the look out in the gallery section. Thanks for all the help.

 

[Jakethetankslayer]

It all depends on what you like both styles are nice both are FULLY upgradeable I prefer the VSR10 style cause I like the looks of it better but that's all personal preference and I would think the VSR10 would be built bore sturdy than the L96 but both are great rifles good luck.

Thanks,
Jacob

 

[Reliku]

That's some impressive gravedigging right there. This thread is from june 2011.

Just to prevent misinformation, they're not both fully upgradeable. Only the VSR is, the L96 AWS has some weird parts with no available upgrades.

What gun would this bolt Action Rifle SS 5000 Spring be best on?

Im wanting to go for accuracy
and FPS Im also going to Use a tefflon Layax Cylinder with a high pressure Piston

So insaying that can i fit that cylinder fit into a PDI reciever?

I don't really understand your question.

 

[MiqaFox]

Just to prevent misinformation, they're not both fully upgradeable. Only the VSR is, the L96 AWS has some weird parts with no available upgrades.

To prevent even more misinformation, the TM L96 is fully upgradable. There are cylinders, pistons, springs, spring guides, triggers, bolt handles, receivers, inner barrels, buckings, outer barrels, endcaps, barrelspacers, loading fins, railsystems and more. Pretty much all you need. The only thing that doesn't exist is an aftermarket hopup chamber. Still, the original is good, so it isn't that much of a problem.

What is a problem however, is the smaller cylinder compared to the VSR. I personally believe it to be the limiting factor when it comes to performance of the rifle.

Having owned the TM L96 for over four years, and never had great results, the tedious disasembly is really getting to me. I'm seriosly considering switching it out.

If aesthetics are very important, I would still consider it. If you want maximum performance, I'd go for the VSR.

 

[Reliku]

The absence of a hopup chamber by definition means that it's not fully upgradeable, no?

Yes, you can use the TM one and it's alright, but especially if you're buying a clone rifle the absence of a good aftermarket chamber is a PITA.

 

[MiqaFox]

Personally I think only the parts that need replacing should be replaceable for it to be called fully upgradeable. But each to their own. The point was to show that it can be upgraded. Even though it probably wasn't your intention, it sounded like the upgradeability was terrible. Like the AGM L96 or something.

Before the AA chamber for VSR, people who disliked the PDI chamber usually went with the TM one, even if they had a clone. The same you can do for the TM L96. But if you really, really want an upgraded chamber for the TM L96, it does have the same inner diameter in the outer barrel as the VSR G-spec, at least for barrel spacers, so I would assume a VSR chamber could fit. Though you'd have to do a lot of modding to actually fit it with screw and stuff.

Still, for performance I'd think the VSR is better.

 

[Zerosliver]

The VSR is just a typical no-nonsense platform. No unnecessary coolness on the outside. Solid and lightweight construction, simple internal mechanisms, nothing special.

The L96 is more form over function. It wants to look cool, but because of that it has to use a horrible ramp design to load bb's. Plus it weighs more ofc.

 

[Reliku]

Personally I think only the parts that need replacing should be replaceable for it to be called fully upgradeable. But each to their own. The point was to show that it can be upgraded. Even though it probably wasn't your intention, it sounded like the upgradeability was terrible. Like the AGM L96 or something.

Before the AA chamber for VSR, people who disliked the PDI chamber usually went with the TM one, even if they had a clone. The same you can do for the TM L96. But if you really, really want an upgraded chamber for the TM L96, it does have the same inner diameter in the outer barrel as the VSR G-spec, at least for barrel spacers, so I would assume a VSR chamber could fit. Though you'd have to do a lot of modding to actually fit it with screw and stuff.

Still, for performance I'd think the VSR is better.

Fair point... That was not my intention, it definitely is very upgradeable

But the fact that you can't get an aftermarket hopup chamber will hurt the performance... A TM hopup chamber is pretty good, but not as good as the AA chamber I reckon. Never tried it myself, gotta admit that.

If you're going for upgradeability, the VSR (or type 96) rifles are simply better. There are more upgrade parts available and there are more manufacturers making upgrade parts so you have more to choose from. That isn't the case with the L96 AWS

But yeah, with enough time and effort and the right parts, the TM L96 can probably shoot straighter than my type 96 rifles which have an aftermarket chamber, hehe. It's all about tuning. With enough shimming and effort I reckon the TM L96 chamber can be pretty darn good.

It just requires a lot more effort :hehe:

 

[Mental96]

Actually, the tm chamber is HELLOVA tight in tolerances...I had to so slightly sand the sides of the hop arm to have free movement in there, not to mention changing buckings...my hands still hurt.

There is no space to shim anything in there.