[ctman]

So, I am building a TM g-spec.
All of these setups will have low fps springs, I want low a light bolt pull, low FPS, and by this I will gain consistacy.

I have 3 options to go with, anyone have input?

Option 1:

-PDI VSR-10 Precision Palsonite Cylinder Set VC
-PDI 140 VSR-10 Spring

Option 2:

-PDI VSR-10 Precision Palsonite Cylinder Set HD
-PDI 140 VSR-10 Spring

And lastly, Option 3:

-RAVEN PDI VSR-10 Cylinder Set (only Cylinder and Cylinder head)
-PDI VSR-10 BaRiKaRu-Compo Piston VC
-PDI VSR-10 Spring Guide for VC
-PDI 130 VSR-10 Spring

 

[MGunner]

a 1J spring
Firefly soft bucking
SCS/PCS nub
Tino Koba twist barrel.
Very quiet, very accurate, very light bolt pull.
Annd you can run it on the stock parts, although a Raven cylinder would be good for looks.

 

[ctman]

Yeah. I want to run PDI internals so i can swap springs later.

Which of my 3 would you suggest? I think I like the 3rd option.

 

[inthetallgrass]

This will probably be my fiftieth time saying this but buy a more powerful spring and cut it significantly. That way you'll have the lower power and trust me. It'll be 5 times quieter then what you already have. You just may need to put a little black electrical tape on to hold the sears. Also there should be no tension on it. Meaning that the piston should be a good bit in the cylinder. Not bursting to get out.

 

[woogie]

Not a bad looking set up man. Just remember.......with any build you are going to have to tweek it a little bit.

If you go over to x-fire.org, you can get the kit. Will give you everything you need. Might as well go for quality, and know that it will last longer than you will. And if you decide to up the fps you have nothing to worry about.

The Barukki piston is Awesome!! Just don't use it with to strong of a spring. I tore mine to chunks with only 3 pulls of the trigger :S

 

[inthetallgrass]

Sorry for double post but you should get the Vacuum piston not the Raven one. The vacuum piston increases range and accuracy for lower power guns. Still good for high power just works best for low power.

EDIT: Forgot the edit button on the previous post. Sorry. lol

 

[ctman]

Thanks guys. So this is what i should do?

RAVEN PDI VSR-10 Cylinder Set (only Cylinder and Cylinder head)
-PDI VSR-10 BaRiKaRu-Compo Piston VC
-PDI VSR-10 Spring Guide for VC
-PDI 130 VSR-10 Spring

Will the 130 spring hurt it? Or should i stick with a 120?


REMEMBER: I'm not going for raw power and long-long range. I want low fps, light bolt pull, and quiet.

And as for buckings, I was planning on a Nineball purple... Should I go for a Firefly soft instead?

And this setup was to be run on a PDI V-Trig. Will the 90 degree piston end included with the V trig work on the Barukki piston?

 

[woogie]

If I remember right the v-trig will work with the piston. If not I have a piston I can get ya

As for the spring I would stick with the 120 to be safe, but I think the piston is good up to around 400 or so. I would do some more checking on that just to make sure. X-fire says to keep it to the 110,130,140 and I am sure that is with the PDI springs.

http://www.x-fire.org/vsr10/e.VSR_customize_kit.html
Or go with this and you are ready to go

 

[ctman]

I'm staying away from that PDI hop up. I dont really like em in my APS and M24.

I think I'll go with the VSR 120 spring.

Here is how redwolf rates them.
"PDI have kindly provided us with numbers of the fps ratings of their current spec VSR springs as follows:


130% - 370 fps
140% - 380 fps
200% - 430 fps
250% - 440 fps
280% - 450 fps
330% - 460 fps
360% - 470 fps"


&
Firefly soft bucking?

 

[inthetallgrass]

I just won't make suggestions anymore.....

 

[ctman]

I just won't make suggestions anymore.....

Well, I have some VSR springs i can cut, just want to try a 120 or 130.

 

[woogie]

With the springs already made, it isn't much of trial and error to get the correct fps you want. And if you cut your spring wrong you are out the spring and need a new one. That is why I am thinking he is going to go with a new spring, much easier in the long run.

 

[ctman]

Woogie is correct here, just looking for somthing right on as far as output goes. And I need this especially for that lightweight piston that is very picky with springs.

Here is the setup I'm going to go for.

Tokyo Marui VSR G-Spec (Black version)

-RAVEN PDI VSR-10 Cylinder Set (Only Cylinder and Cylinder head)
-PDI VSR-10 BaRiKaRu-Compo Piston VC
-PDI VSR-10 Spring Guide for VC
-PDI 130 VSR-10 Spring
-PDI V-Trigger with piston end
-Firefly Soft VSR bucking
-PDI Barrel spacers (G-spec)
-PDI 6.01 303 mm (G-spec)

 

[woogie]

Get a 6.03 barrel though..... but other than that you should be good. And with all the PDI parts, that thing is going to be a beast.

 

[ctman]

I should get a Laylax 6.03? I didnt think PDI made 6.03's.

Also Woogie, Nineball purple bucking or Firefly soft?

 

[gorem13]

In my build, that's what I'm wondering as well ctman.

 

[woogie]

It is all really up to you to be honest. But I have had great success with the Madbull 6.03 V2 inner barrels. I like the 6.03 because it isn't to tight, and not to loose either..*thats what she said* in best Michael Scott voice. I still feel that you don't gain anything when you use a 6.01 or smaller, and same with the 6.06 and up barrels.

The best bet is if you can get a few and play with them. See which one you like and works best for you.

And for a slow shooting rifle, I would go with the soft bucking so you can have more grip on the bb.

 

[ctman]

Did a little research and I'm gonna go with Woogie on this. Laylax 6.03. Better results all around.