[Geograd]

I have a custom programmed airsoft physics application (no I won't give it to you) that I can use to figure out your max distance with the perfect hop. Just leave a comment in this thread with the following:

BB weight
FPS with that weight
Your Height

I'll respond with a 0 degree angle distance (with perfect flat hop) and a perfect angle to shoot at. It might take me some time to respond to everyone but I'll get to you eventually

EDIT: You will have to FINE tune your hopup for these results. I am fine tuning the RPM (Rotations Per Minute) to achieve these results, unfortunately you can't set an RPM from your hopup

Sumta

.28 @ 420fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 160 feet
0 degrees max distance = 291 feet
0 degree angle max height 21.6 feet at 245 feet

Best setup (This has a slight overhop at the end)
4 degree angle max flat trajectory 220 feet
4 degree angle max distance 285 feet
4 degree angle max height 10 feet at 245 feet

.43 @ 330fps

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 250 feet
0 degrees max distance = 346 feet
0 degree angle max height 9.9 feet at 290 feet

Best setup (this is pretty much flat for 300 feet, it looks amazing on my graph chart )
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 300 feet
2 degree angle max distance 336 feet
2 degree angle max height 9.2 feet at 210 feet

Plazmaburn

.28 @ 303fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 170 feet
0 degrees max distance = 257 feet
0 degree angle max height 21.6 feet at 245 feet

Best setup (This is almost perfectly flat)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 220 feet
3 degree angle max distance 240 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.6 feet at 200 feet

.28 @ 458fps

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 170 feet
0 degrees max distance = 301 feet
0 degree angle max height 28.8 feet at 250 feet

Best setup (too light of BB for FPS has to dip slightly before rising for max distance)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 265 feet
3 degree angle max distance 288 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.7 feet at 250 feet

.25 @ 307fps

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 138 feet
0 degrees max distance = 233 feet
0 degree angle max height 13 feet at 200 feet

Best setup (straight shot)
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 200 feet
2 degree angle max distance 227 feet
2 degree angle max height 7.8 feet at 180 feet

.25 @ 390fps

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 150 feet
0 degrees max distance = 259 feet
0 degree angle max height 21 feet at 220 feet

Best setup (slight down and up)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 190 feet
3 degree angle max distance 251 feet
3 degree angle max height 8.2 feet at 210 feet

Fitch

.40 @ 210fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 200 feet
0 degrees max distance = 237 feet
0 degree angle max height 5.7 feet at 210 feet

Best setup
1 degree angle max flat trajectory 220 feet
1 degree angle max distance 240 feet
1 degree angle max height 6.9 feet at 210 feet

Both of these are extremely straight and practically the same.

Geist

.25 @ 420fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 140 feet
0 degrees max distance = 267 feet
0 degree angle max height 24 feet at 230 feet

Best setup (slight up and down)
4 degree angle max flat trajectory 200 feet
4 degree angle max distance 258 feet
4 degree angle max height 7.9 feet at 220 feet

.40 @ 250fps

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 250 feet
0 degrees max distance = 272 feet
0 degree angle max height 6.5 feet at 230 feet

Best setup (pretty crazy but this is the perfect shot for this weight)
0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 250 feet
0 degrees max distance = 272 feet
0 degree angle max height 6.5 feet at 230 feet

Rubiksklube

.25 @ 325fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 145 feet
0 degrees max distance = 235 feet
0 degree angle max height 13 feet at 200 feet

Best setup (pretty straight a bit down and up)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 220 feet
3 degree angle max distance 233 feet
3 degree angle max height 7.6 feet at 200 feet

Little Bird

.30 @ 420fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 160 feet
0 degrees max distance = 307 feet
0 degree angle max height 23 feet at 270 feet

Best setup (pretty straight a very slight down and up)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 270 feet
3 degree angle max distance 291 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.1 feet at 255 feet

.20 @ 500fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 130 feet
0 degrees max distance = 234 feet
0 degree angle max height 26 feet at 200 feet

Best setup (too high of FPS for such a light weight, definitely down and up a couple feet difference)
4 degree angle max flat trajectory 210 feet
4 degree angle max distance 228 feet
4 degree angle max height 6.5 feet at 200 feet

Alpha1Zulu

.40 @ 280fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 200 feet
0 degrees max distance = 300 feet
0 degree angle max height 8.6 feet at 240 feet

Best setup (almost perfectly straight)
1 degree angle max flat trajectory 270 feet
1 degree angle max distance 288 feet
1 degree angle max height 5.8 feet at 245 feet

.40 @ 400fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 210 feet
0 degrees max distance = 372 feet
0 degree angle max height 18 feet at 325 feet

Best setup (some down and up)
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 250 feet
2 degree angle max distance 358 feet
2 degree angle max height 8.8 feet at 300 feet

.40 @ 530fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 220 feet
0 degrees max distance = 424 feet
0 degree angle max height 42.7 feet at 360 feet

Best setup (This high FPS doesn't allow for the hopup to take effect very quickly so it needs a higher start to keep a level finish, but it flattens out to 400 feet so not bad)
4 degree angle max flat trajectory 370 feet
4 degree angle max distance 401 feet
4 degree angle max height 9 feet at 100 feet

Willard

.20 @ 520fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 120 feet
0 degrees max distance = 236 feet
0 degree angle max height 33.5 feet at 200 feet

Best setup (way too fast of FPS for this weight, significant down and up)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 190 feet
3 degree angle max distance 237 feet
3 degree angle max height 9.5 feet at 210 feet

.40 @ 368fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 230 feet
0 degrees max distance = 356 feet
0 degree angle max height 15 feet at 300 feet

Best setup (pretty darn flat, very slight down and up)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 315 feet
3 degree angle max distance 343 feet
3 degree angle max height 7.8 feet at 290 feet

Vaksai

.28 @ 370fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 150 feet
0 degrees max distance = 277 feet
0 degree angle max height 19 feet at 240 feet

Best setup (very slight down and up)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 240 feet
3 degree angle max distance 263 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.4 feet at 230 feet

.30 @ 420fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 170 feet
0 degrees max distance = 304 feet
0 degree angle max height 23 feet at 260 feet

Best setup (a bit too high FPS for weight, increase to .43g BB to reach out to 350ft max and 300ft flat)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 260 feet
3 degree angle max distance 293 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.7 feet at 250 feet

1tonne

.30 @ 465fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 165 feet
0 degrees max distance = 319 feet
0 degree angle max height 27 feet at 270 feet

Best setup (some down and up, too fast FPS for weight, use .43 for better trajectory and distance)
4 degree angle max flat trajectory 280 feet
4 degree angle max distance 306 feet
4 degree angle max height 7.5 feet at 275 feet

.43 @ 389fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 205 feet
0 degrees max distance = 312 feet
0 degree angle max height 8 feet at 260 feet

Best setup (thought my graph was broken it was so straight until it drops off at the end, literally less than a foot in up and down, the perfect shot)
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 280 feet
2 degree angle max distance 301 feet
2 degree angle max height 6.2 feet at 240 feet

Bobcat

.30 @ 350fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 150 feet
0 degrees max distance = 287 feet
0 degree angle max height 19 feet at 245 feet

Best setup (not bad, pretty flat)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 245 feet
3 degree angle max distance 270 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.3 feet at 230 feet

.30 @ 400fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 155 feet
0 degrees max distance = 303 feet
0 degree angle max height 26 feet at 255 feet

Best setup (some up and down, getting to high FPS for weight)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 275 feet
3 degree angle max distance 287 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.3 feet at 250 feet

.30 @ 450fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 170 feet
0 degrees max distance = 322 feet
0 degree angle max height 28 feet at 270 feet

Best setup (definitely up and down, too high FPS for weight)
4 degree angle max flat trajectory 290 feet
4 degree angle max distance 300 feet
4 degree angle max height 6.5 feet at 260 feet

.30 @ 500fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 155 feet
0 degrees max distance = 327 feet
0 degree angle max height 39 feet at 277 feet

Best setup (way too much FPS for weight, lots of up and down)
4 degree angle max flat trajectory 290 feet
4 degree angle max distance 310 feet
4 degree angle max height 6.2 feet at 273 feet

.40 @ 470fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 195 feet
0 degrees max distance = 405 feet
0 degree angle max height 35 feet at 350 feet

Best setup (definitely up and down, too high FPS for weight, switch to .43)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 360 feet
3 degree angle max distance 381 feet
3 degree angle max height 7.7 feet at 320 feet

.43 @ 449fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 220 feet
0 degrees max distance = 420 feet
0 degree angle max height 32 feet at 350 feet

Best setup (much less up and down, takes off more than half a foot each direction which makes it flatter. Still a bit too fast, suggest slightly lower FPS with .43)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 365 feet
3 degree angle max distance 389 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.2 feet at 340 feet

Svdsniper69

.36 @ 460fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 175 feet
0 degrees max distance = 370 feet
0 degree angle max height 34 feet at 315 feet

Best setup (definitely up and down, too high FPS for weight, switch to .43)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 335 feet
3 degree angle max distance 349 feet
3 degree angle max height 7.3 feet at 300 feet

.43 @ 420fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 210 feet
0 degrees max distance = 406 feet
0 degree angle max height 25 feet at 340 feet

Best setup (much less up and down but still some)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 360 feet
3 degree angle max distance 379 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.8 feet at 325 feet

4ce

.30 @ 269fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 180 feet
0 degrees max distance = 238 feet
0 degree angle max height 6.7 feet at 205 feet

Best setup (almost perfectly straight)
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 220 feet
2 degree angle max distance 237 feet
2 degree angle max height 6 feet at 200 feet

.36 @ 245fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 230 feet
0 degrees max distance = 251 feet
0 degree angle max height 5.8 feet at 220 feet

Best setup (this is perfectly straight)
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 230 feet
2 degree angle max distance 248 feet
2 degree angle max height 6 feet at 200 feet

.43 @ 224fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 230 feet
0 degrees max distance = 257 feet
0 degree angle max height 5.8 feet at 190 feet

Best setup (this is perfectly straight)
1 degree angle max flat trajectory 230 feet
1 degree angle max distance 255 feet
1 degree angle max height 5.9 feet at 180 feet

Kermit

.30 @ 360fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 160 feet
0 degrees max distance = 289 feet
0 degree angle max height 19 feet at 240 feet

Best setup (pretty straight)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 260 feet
3 degree angle max distance 272 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.1 feet at 240 feet

Scheck

.20 @ 498fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 125 feet
0 degrees max distance = 234 feet
0 degree angle max height 27 feet at 200 feet

Best setup (way too high FPS for this weight, no way to get straight past 150 feet. Lots of down then up and overhop.)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 175 feet
3 degree angle max distance 234 feet
3 degree angle max height 11 feet at 205 feet

.40 @ 379fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 190 feet
0 degrees max distance = 366 feet
0 degree angle max height 20 feet at 300 feet

Best setup (slight down and up but much better.)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 315 feet
3 degree angle max distance 342 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.6 feet at 290 feet

Leonids

.30 @ 348fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 150 feet
0 degrees max distance = 286 feet
0 degree angle max height 20 feet at 240 feet

Best setup (decently straight, slight up and down)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 250 feet
3 degree angle max distance 269 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.1 feet at 230 feet

Zardichar

.40 @ 377fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 170 feet
0 degrees max distance = 369 feet
0 degree angle max height 27 feet at 310 feet

Best setup (decently straight, slight up and down)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 320 feet
3 degree angle max distance 339 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.3 feet at 290 feet

.40 @ 350fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 165 feet
0 degrees max distance = 354 feet
0 degree angle max height 21 feet at 300 feet

Best setup (pretty darn straight)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 305 feet
3 degree angle max distance 324 feet
3 degree angle max height 6 feet at 260 feet

.32 @ 350fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 160 feet
0 degrees max distance = 299 feet
0 degree angle max height 18 feet at 250 feet

Best setup (slight up and down)
3 degree angle max flat trajectory 265 feet
3 degree angle max distance 280 feet
3 degree angle max height 6.1 feet at 230 feet

.32 @ 300fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 157 feet
0 degrees max distance = 276 feet
0 degree angle max height 12.5 feet at 230 feet

Best setup (very straight)
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 247 feet
2 degree angle max distance 261 feet
2 degree angle max height 6 feet at 210 feet

.32 @ 280fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 160 feet
0 degrees max distance = 263 feet
0 degree angle max height 9.9 feet at 220 feet

Best setup (very straight)
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 235 feet
2 degree angle max distance 251 feet
2 degree angle max height 6 feet at 205 feet

.30 @ 290fps:

0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 150 feet
0 degrees max distance = 258 feet
0 degree angle max height 12 feet at 220 feet

Best setup (pretty straight)
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 230 feet
2 degree angle max distance 249 feet
2 degree angle max height 6 feet at 200 feet

 

[Sumta]

6'3"
.28 & .43
485fps

 

[Geograd]

6'3"
.28 & .43
485fps

485fps with both weights?

 

[Sumta]

485fps with both weights?

2.19J energy
420 /w .28
330 /w .43

 

[SamuraiBrah]

What? How could these 3 things tell you a max distance? It doesn't calculate bb defects, barrel length, hop up unit, among other things. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Sumta]

nothing is ever perfect, i know that, i'm just curious what numbers it will say vs what i get range testing,

 

[Geograd]

decided to put them all into one post.

 

[Geist]

What? How could these 3 things tell you a max distance? It doesn't calculate bb defects, barrel length, hop up unit, among other things. Correct me if I am wrong.

It most likely calculates it from a "perfect rifle". So the answer won't be exact but close enough.

Height: 6 foot 2 inches (more or less, but still tall for 14...)
.40 = I think 250 fps give or take 20 fps
.25 = 420 fps, but some sites say 340 fps :nuts:

 

[Sumta]

.28 @ 485fps:

At 0 degrees max flat trajectory distance = 150 feet
Best setup
2 degree angle max flat trajectory 230 feet
2 degree angle max distance 300 feet
2 degree angle max height 14 feet at 260 feet

.43 @ 330fps
EDITING

420 /w .28
330 /w .43

dont wanna hurt players with the .43's

 

[Geograd]

What? How could these 3 things tell you a max distance? It doesn't calculate bb defects, barrel length, hop up unit, among other things. Correct me if I am wrong.

This is max distance under ideal conditions. The barrel length doesn't matter because that just determines the FPS and RPM (rotations per minute) of when the BB leaves the barrel and the physics of the BB's flight is determined after the BB leaves the barrel.

 

[Sumta]

just adding, barrel length is more to handle the air volume your weapon pushed out with the bb. 1:1.7 barrel to cylinder volume ratio is your sweet spot for lost potential

 

[SamuraiBrah]

Well in case you guys don't want to wait for Geograd and his top secret calculator, here's a link to one: Airsoft Gun FPS and Range Calculator

@Sumta
Interesting, could you provide me with a source? Not saying you're wrong I just want to read up on it.

 

[Geograd]

Well in case you guys don't want to wait for Geograd and his top secret calculator, here's a link to one: Airsoft Gun FPS and Range Calculator

@Sumta
Interesting, could you provide me with a source? Not saying you're wrong I just want to read up on it.

That thing is way off, it looks like it barely considers hopup if at all.

 

[Sumta]

Well in case you guys don't want to wait for Geograd and his top secret calculator, here's a link to one: Airsoft Gun FPS and Range Calculator

@Sumta
Interesting, could you provide me with a source? Not saying you're wrong I just want to read up on it.

theres a lot of info on the forum
http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/43-longrange-aegs/892-holy-grail-building-your-dmr-aeg.html
plenty of sticky's to

it's why i was curious what the calculator would say. get to know your weapon and learn what it's capable of.

the reason why i'm considering a 750mm inner barrel for Anastasia

as for your link thats also "estimated effective range"
Geograd's is probably a little closer to true given best case for everything

 

[Geograd]

theres a lot of info on the forum
http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/43-longrange-aegs/892-holy-grail-building-your-dmr-aeg.html
plenty of sticky's to

it's why i was curious what the calculator would say. get to know your weapon and learn what it's capable of.

the reason why i'm considering a 750mm inner barrel for Anastasia

as for your link thats also "estimated effective range"
Geograd's is probably a little closer to true given best case for everything

I updated your numbers for 420fps Sumta

 

[Sumta]

I updated your numbers for 420fps Sumta

seen , i liked

 

[SamuraiBrah]

That thing is way off, it looks like it barely considers hopup if at all.

I put in Sumta's numbers and came up with results very close to yours. Only about 12 feet less than what your calculator said, without calculating height.

*EDIT*
It was pretty accurate for the .28's, not so much at all for the .43's (based on your results).

@Sumta
Geograd's and the one I posted most likely use very similar algorithms, and if you looked hard enough you could probably find the algorithm used.

Thanks for the link

 

[Sumta]

I put in Sumta's numbers and came up with results very close to yours. Only about 12 feet less than what your calculator said, without calculating height.

@Sumta
Geograd's and the one I posted most likely use very similar algorithms, and if you looked hard enough you could probably find the algorithm used.

Thanks for the link

i've had that link and ATP - The Airsoft Trajectory Project for a while. goes back to what i said. your weapon, get to know it, love it, it is your mistress.

 

[Geograd]

i've had that link and ATP - The Airsoft Trajectory Project for a while. goes back to what i said. your weapon, get to know it, love it, it is your mistress.

Sorry quoted wrong person

 

[Geograd]

I put in Sumta's numbers and came up with results very close to yours. Only about 12 feet less than what your calculator said, without calculating height.

*EDIT*
It was pretty accurate for the .28's, not so much at all for the .43's (based on your results).

@Sumta
Geograd's and the one I posted most likely use very similar algorithms, and if you looked hard enough you could probably find the algorithm used.

Thanks for the link

Um, I put his numbers in and got 185.76 for the .28 and 149.9 feet for the .43, what numbers did you use?