[GoodSniper1]

Hi. I just bought a new sniper ( G&g g960 ) and it doesn't comply with my fields chrono rules. It runs 548 with .4's. I've seen velocity decreases, but this does not have a threaded barrel, which leads me to my second question; Are there upgradable pieces for this gun?

 

[Dimitri MdP]

To easily reduce the power of the G&G G96, just use a lower power gas, or use Falcon limiters.

The G96 is basically a extremely upgraded Tanaka M700 AICS. As a matter of fact, G&G was making upgrades for the Tanaka for some years, and then decided to release his own gun using all of them.

So it has great seals, steel bolt and cocking pieces, and overall better quality than pretty much any other airsoft basr you can ever find.

But that also means it inherited Tanaka's crappy hop up design, and to further complicate things, you cannot just simply install an aftermarket conversion chamber and use VSR style buckings and inner barrels like you would on Tanaka's (or KJW), because the nozzle being 1 piece with the bolt in the G&G.
Aftermarket conversion chambers require the longer nozzle they include in the kit to work properly. So you have to either get your bolt to a machinist that will cut the nozzle, drill it and thread it for the conversion chamber's nozzle, or make do with the stock, traditional Tanaka design..

The easiest way out is to use Falcon's hop rubber in the stock chamber. Should be good enough, yet nothing too impressive. As for the inner barrels, afaik only PDI used to make some for the Tanaka style, but they have been discontinued a long time ago.

 

[GoodSniper1]

Sounds like a plan. I heard duster gas was low powered and I could put a little bit of it in there if they make me chrono, so only 2 or 3 shots are low. I'll be using some .45's as well.

 

[GoodSniper1]

To easily reduce the power of the G&G G96, just use a lower power gas, or use Falcon limiters.

For the falcon limiters, would you just stick those in the barrel or?

 

[Entropy]

Sounds like a plan. I heard duster gas was low powered and I could put a little bit of it in there if they make me chrono, so only 2 or 3 shots are low. I'll be using some .45's as well.

Or you could y'know... not cheat the chrono.

 

[GoodSniper1]

Or you could y'know... not cheat the chrono.

It's not just to cheat it... it's also a bit of a long term plan for the field as well.

 

[Entropy]

So you came here to ask how you can sidestep the chrono and joule/fps cheat?

 

[Plazmaburn]

For a barrel, you can ask Edgi if he can make you one.

 

[Dimitri MdP]

Dude... not cool.

 

[GoodSniper1]

Dude... not cool.

I don't see what's wrong with this. I genuinely want to lower the guns FPS and not just bypass the chrono. And this is only *if* they chrono it. I've been 1 or two times to this field and they haven't

 

[Entropy]

Doesn't change the fact you're talking about cheating the chrono if they ever happen to do it, and probably shooting way too hot otherwise.

 

[Dimitri MdP]

This

I genuinely want to lower the guns FPS and not just bypass the chrono.

contradicts this

I heard duster gas was low powered and I could put a little bit of it in there if they make me chrono, so only 2 or 3 shots are low.

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Falcon limiters go in the bolt and if you genuinely want to lower the FPS, they should be enough even using the same gas you've always used.

 

[BuMS]

It runs 548 with .4's.

If it shoots 548fps with .4's, you are delivering 5.55 Joules...
Are you sure about that?

5.55J with a .2g bb would be 772.72fps...
And i doubt that's the case(If not... You're shooting a bit hot).

I hope you meant, that it shoots ~387fps with a .4g bb, and it's the equivalent to 548fps(With .2g bb's).

...Sorry for the rant. It just rubs me the wrong way, when I see something like that.

Edit: It also seems, that you don't know how speed, weight and energy works?(I might be wrong)

 

[GoodSniper1]

If it shoots 548fps with .4's, you are delivering 5.55 Joules...
Are you sure about that?

5.55J with a .2g bb would be 772.72fps...
And i doubt that's the case(If not... You're shooting a bit hot).

I hope you meant, that it shoots ~387fps with a .4g bb, and it's the equivalent to 548fps(With .2g bb's).

...Sorry for the rant. It just rubs me the wrong way, when I see something like that.

Edit: It also seems, that you don't know how speed, weight and energy works?(I might be wrong)

You're not wrong. I'm fairly new to airsoft and sniping. But to answer my question, are you aware of any method that can reduce the fps?

 

[BuMS]

Don't do this:

The best way(When using gas) would be, to reduce the hammer/striker spring force.
That way, less gas will be released, resulting in a lower output speed.

You could also use a shorter inner barrel, that will result in the bb having shorter time to accelerate, giving you a lower output speed.
But with some sniper rifles, you risk the bb hitting the outer barrel, on the way out(And that's very bad).

The very best way(Also most expensive), is to tap the magazine and run High Pressure Air(HPA).
The problem with gas snipers, is the bad consistency, and regulated air(HPA) is very consistent.

 

[Dimitri MdP]

The best way(When using gas) would be, to reduce the hammer/striker spring force.
That way, less gas will be released, resulting in a lower output speed.

That's false. a softer spring won't give you lower FPS, unless it gets too soft to fully open the valve, and that way the FPS will be much lower than needed.
Valve aperture time (and consequently, gas flow volume) is controlled mainly by the strength of the magazine's plunger spring.

But anyway, using a lower power gas or the Falcon limiters is a gazillion times easier and better.

 

[GoodSniper1]

That's false. a softer spring won't give you lower FPS, unless it gets too soft to fully open the valve, and that way the FPS will be much lower than needed.

Valve aperture time (and consequently, gas flow volume) is controlled mainly by the strength of the magazine's plunger spring.

But anyway, using a lower power gas or the Falcon limiters is a gazillion times easier and better.

I ordered falcon limiters. I'm still a tad confused on what you do with those. They seem to look fairly large for something that is supposed to go in the barrel. Are we talking inner or outer barrel

 

[Dimitri MdP]

They seem to look fairly large for something that is supposed to go in the barrel. l

For the twentieth time... THEY GO IN THE BOLT, NOT THE BARREL

See that red rubber in your G96 bolt? Take that out, and put one of Falcon's in.

This is the original

These are Falcon's. The green one is probably the one you need.

 

[GoodSniper1]

For the twentieth time... THEY GO IN THE BOLT, NOT THE BARREL

See that red rubber in your G96 bolt? Take that out, and put one of Falcon's in.

This is the original

These are Falcon's. The green one is probably the one you need.

Thanks so much! That makes more sense now

 

[BuMS]

That's false. a softer spring won't give you lower FPS, unless it gets too soft to fully open the valve, and that way the FPS will be much lower than needed.
Valve aperture time (and consequently, gas flow volume) is controlled mainly by the strength of the magazine's plunger spring.

But anyway, using a lower power gas or the Falcon limiters is a gazillion times easier and better.

Right, forget what I said, and do this^