Hey guys, I just saw a new video posted today by Nov. He was talking about the new pistol and I'm 99% sure its a G18c. You can see it on the table in the back. The video is on the Novritsch-Tactical channel. What do you guys think? Will ya'll get it?
New Novritsch Pistol
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I think it's just salty people who over estimated the gun. I only have the SSX23 and haven't gotten the chance to use it in game so I can't really pick sides but I'd say it seems like a pretty solid gun as of now. And yea, his brand is thriving, kudos to Chris. Also, I just realized something, The SSX303 is like the only original nov product, that's why it's probably taking forever to drop.
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Novritsch could make a mass variety of parts so you could build a gun from scratch. People would bitch about that. Or build one and THEN bitch. Lol. When produced in mass there will be issues. Some controllable. But nothing will ever be perfect. The people who bash with the most negative comments on Instagram and such are the ones who expect perfection.
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The SSX303 isn't really original. It's a Mk23 with proprietary parts that only he provides so it fits his non universal carbine kit. It's for that reason I won't be buying one. If he would just make it a kit for any Mk23 I'd jump in.
BlindSniper, he could do that but his stuff are supposed to be "preupgraded out of the box" but I agree with you. AccurateDMD, yea, his gun is literally a built in carbine kit bit i think the only thing is the longer barrel. It seems cool and I would want one if it was cheap but I know it's pretty expensive and there's no point to get one. So yea, I'd want one but never get one.
By the sounds of it, the SSX303 is definitely better than a MK23 with an overpriced kit.
On paper that is.
It is supposed to have interchangeable valves to adjust power, and everything should be way stronger and more stable due to having a FULL ALUMINUM BODY (cough cough ESC Works and your 50% printed kit)
Also, it looks very cool to me, and would look even cooler with something like a homemade APS TRON style skeleton stock as well as being a bit more maneuverable than the regular one.
That being said, I very very highly doubt I'll get one seeing as it's gonna be $300+ and I'm already building an HPA M4 that will be better in many ways as well as being very unique.
But, as I posted earlier, if my house burnt down I'd probably get the 303 if I desired a DMR that was actually stealthy.
Maybe he'll sell the body separate like how you can get the A1 or A2 stock separately.
And maybe it won't actually be that hard to make it work with a regular MK23.
On paper that is.
It is supposed to have interchangeable valves to adjust power, and everything should be way stronger and more stable due to having a FULL ALUMINUM BODY (cough cough ESC Works and your 50% printed kit)
Also, it looks very cool to me, and would look even cooler with something like a homemade APS TRON style skeleton stock as well as being a bit more maneuverable than the regular one.
That being said, I very very highly doubt I'll get one seeing as it's gonna be $300+ and I'm already building an HPA M4 that will be better in many ways as well as being very unique.
But, as I posted earlier, if my house burnt down I'd probably get the 303 if I desired a DMR that was actually stealthy.
Maybe he'll sell the body separate like how you can get the A1 or A2 stock separately.
And maybe it won't actually be that hard to make it work with a regular MK23.
Yeah, idk, I haven't payed attention recently as most of his energy seems to be focused on the SSP.
Btw, swank rabbit:lmao:
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300$ for an aluminum body? *stares in vsr*
I mean cmon. Throw a 300mm barrel on a regular Mk23 and you'll be at 400-450fps. Why do you need interchangeable valves? CO2 mags are the only thing he MAY offer that could be a benefit and thats really only for cold weather. Also those would work with a regular NBB Mk23.
I find it a much bigger issue that he's charging $300 for a DMR style rifle that won't be allowed at most mil sim events as a DMR. If thats even a POSSIBILITY, then I want the ability to convert it back to a standard Mk23 so at least I have a sidearm for a bolty.
Pretty sure Silo offers a conversion kit for much cheaper anyway, so if I get an itch maybe I'll go that route.
I mean cmon. Throw a 300mm barrel on a regular Mk23 and you'll be at 400-450fps. Why do you need interchangeable valves? CO2 mags are the only thing he MAY offer that could be a benefit and thats really only for cold weather. Also those would work with a regular NBB Mk23.
I find it a much bigger issue that he's charging $300 for a DMR style rifle that won't be allowed at most mil sim events as a DMR. If thats even a POSSIBILITY, then I want the ability to convert it back to a standard Mk23 so at least I have a sidearm for a bolty.
Pretty sure Silo offers a conversion kit for much cheaper anyway, so if I get an itch maybe I'll go that route.
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Surprisingly, at least for the case of AAC T10 it wouldn't be marketed as such.
Do remember Action Army primarily makes upgrades for VSRs and other sniper platforms. The T10 is intentionally made to be good enough but not better so that they can sell guns and parts.
On the other hand the Mk13 was made to be great and hassle free out of the box not too unlike when the SSG24 hit the market a few years ago.
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This idea sounds great like building PCs but is actually silly in the end. We already have the VSR/M4 (AEG)/Hi capa and the likes for those "pimp your gun" kind of stuff (of which Noviboy has all of them), so unless the platform is extremely good to the point companies would toss their existing upgrades for the new platform - which even in the case of the Hi-Capa DOR where it's literally better than the old one in any aspects, it never got any noticeable upgrades - that idea won't fly.
I personally believe that while it can be that there are freak incidents, the fact that some products having exactly the same problems that would've been caught early in QC by just shooting a full mag (especially in the SSX23 - droopy outers, non-centered silencers, broken OOTB mags etc) reoccurring again and again, is not something I would blame on "haters gonna hate". Like, a stroll on the SSX23 owners group and you will see a disproportionally large amount of people having issues one way another compared to the SSG24, and to a lesser extent the SSG10 family.
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Random thought with all of this parts talk and things on the market; I wish someone made an m24 stock for a vsr-10. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think they do. The m24 rifles are SEMI vsr compatible but they have a different magazine style. I know the outer barrel/hop is a slightly smaller diameter because Action Army makes a green m24 hopup chamber. It would work JUST as good as a red AA I bet. Same design just smaller diameter to fit the m24. I mainly like the adjustable but pad on the stock, that stock with compatible with vsr mags would be neat. I had a friends m24 a while back and looking at it next to one of my vsrs I KNOW I could do some hack job shit and make it work. BUT sometimes I want nice things, not junkyard projects.
Like I said that was just a random thought... I’d rather throw it out here and have everyone scroll passed it than make a new post that doesn’t get any action and takes up more space lol.
Like I said that was just a random thought... I’d rather throw it out here and have everyone scroll passed it than make a new post that doesn’t get any action and takes up more space lol.
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I remember there was an M24 stock made a long time ago for the VSR but was plagued with issues, and is already well out of production a very long time ago.
Outside of the A&K M24 (which does use some VSR stuff) the M24s are mostly APS-2. So far nobody knows if the Action Army chamber (for the M24LTR made by CA) works with them but I bet not.
I do wonder why the SSG24 wasn't made with a VSR bucking spec cylinder head, or at least somebody make an upgrade for that though…
I honestly think the SSG was nov's invention/move. Not necessarily performance wise but sales and idea wise. He named it based on the SSG69 and M24 I think and at that point, I think his stuff might have been better quality since he was building a new brand so he probably put more effort into it. I think he built the SSG24 as hybrid between a M24 and VSR10 but correct me if I'm wrong. Im pretty sure the VSR was definitely a main influence since you can tell just how much he loved that old VSR of his.
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The SSG24 is literally the Mod24 with some design touchups (better fixed outer barrel, overall improvements etc). The bucking is the same and the chamber is mostly carried from the Mod24 with some improvements.
The Modify M24/SSG24 are really quite good, but not for everyone due to the weight, shape, and overall feel.
With an R-hop patch and a different arm or nub you will probably beat most other snipers you see.
But still, I enjoy upgrading my guns and I don't think I'll buy another Nov product except MAYBE the SSX23 unless I can find a Tokyo Marui for a reasonable price.
With an R-hop patch and a different arm or nub you will probably beat most other snipers you see.
But still, I enjoy upgrading my guns and I don't think I'll buy another Nov product except MAYBE the SSX23 unless I can find a Tokyo Marui for a reasonable price.
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I am pretty sure the Facebook owners group for the SSG10 is heavily moderated.
Many people reported that their posts have been approved and then removed by staff, or straight up not approved.
The same happened for a short while in the SSX-23 group I'm part of, people were complaining about issues but their posts disappeared in a matter of minutes.
Also these groups are full of fanboys who don't even have the guns.
I've said it already, the SSX 303 is a carbine kit, in many pictures you can clearly see the mk23 slide underneath the aluminum body. Not that it's a bad thing, don't get me wrong, but imo in order to sell it as a standalone gun only he needed to really make it a complete gun (e.g. Having the carbine kit act as a full slide).
What I truly don't get is why he used an outer barrel with inverted threads.. It's 16CW at the hop end and 14CCW at the muzzle end, so when you screw in a suppressor you unscrew the outer, and good luck tightening everything down.
Nonetheless I'm waiting for it to be released soon, so I can take advantage of some poor kid who wants his money back and get myself a ssx303 at half the price.
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Having both screwed in opposite directions is a smart idea actually, as it prevents the thing from getting overtightened in case you want to detach it. The Maple Leaf whisperer doesn't do that…… and shit literally drew blood on me when I attempted to unscrew it, and it's still stuck in there till now because it simply isn't fucking possible to unscrew ir.
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Not for me though.
On one of my AEG I had a barrel extension made, didn't specify I wanted both threads to be 14 CW (fucking Ares really) and I got sent a CW to CCW one. It was such a bitch to properly tighten AND tighten a flash hider to it. Got it rethreaded to CW, now it's rock solid and doesn't shake itself off anymore.
A dab of grease on the threads during assembly helps a lot when you want to take it apart again.
On one of my AEG I had a barrel extension made, didn't specify I wanted both threads to be 14 CW (fucking Ares really) and I got sent a CW to CCW one. It was such a bitch to properly tighten AND tighten a flash hider to it. Got it rethreaded to CW, now it's rock solid and doesn't shake itself off anymore.
A dab of grease on the threads during assembly helps a lot when you want to take it apart again.
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I hate when the threads counter each other, like when you have a banana that comes apart. You tighten it slightly too much the adapter comes out or the banana comes apart. Usually I make one part really tight. I either crank the adapter in (sometimes they have a hole so you can put an Allen key through it for leverage) or I flex out tightening the banana together lol.
It’s like an oil drain plug. Ffs you don’t need it that tight lol. But depending on how you play, bumping into shit, setting gun down, laying down, holstering a pistol... the banana can work it’s way loose. My mk2 I like, I put the adapter tight into the slide, and the banana has a set screw. She stays together nicely lol.
But the action army twist barrels really piss me off. They have a threaded cap at the end that takes the adapter, then you put an adapter in, then a banana. Omg you try to tighten something casually, SOMETHING comes loose lol.
It’s like an oil drain plug. Ffs you don’t need it that tight lol. But depending on how you play, bumping into shit, setting gun down, laying down, holstering a pistol... the banana can work it’s way loose. My mk2 I like, I put the adapter tight into the slide, and the banana has a set screw. She stays together nicely lol.
But the action army twist barrels really piss me off. They have a threaded cap at the end that takes the adapter, then you put an adapter in, then a banana. Omg you try to tighten something casually, SOMETHING comes loose lol.
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I mean, it doesn't take much effort to take the MK23 outer and make it uber long so it reaches the desired length.
As I said, it would've been truly revolutionary if the upper was an actual upper instead of a cover for the slide as seen in these 2 pictures.
https://wmasg.com/uploads/froala/images/articles/9963/img-6972-5e9c0e81dd86329b23655cd4aef5bf87.jpg
https://m4k6q6s9.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/DSC07343-2-768x768.jpg
The idea is great, but the implementation is stupid.
As I said, it would've been truly revolutionary if the upper was an actual upper instead of a cover for the slide as seen in these 2 pictures.
https://wmasg.com/uploads/froala/images/articles/9963/img-6972-5e9c0e81dd86329b23655cd4aef5bf87.jpg
https://m4k6q6s9.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/DSC07343-2-768x768.jpg
The idea is great, but the implementation is stupid.
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