[Crius]

BLS 0.5gr / Non Bio

BBs so far
BLS: 0.48 / 0.43 / 0.40 / 0.50
BLS Bio: 0.45 /
Nov: 0.36 / 0.49 /
Tippman: 0.30 /
ASG: 0.28 /
Elite Force: 0.20 /
Game Face: 0.20 /
CL Bushido: 0.32 /

Anyone with ???
BLS : 0.36 / 0.30
BLS Bio: 0.30
Nov: 0.43 / 0.40
Nov Bio: 0.43

 

[TenshouYoku]

I mean I'd be surprised if the BB's internal consistency (bubbles/off-centered material) wouldn't affect the hop and consistency of the BB, but exactly how large will that affect things is something I wondered. Turbulences, FPS fluctuations or inconsistent winds probably would have a bigger effect to your BB trajectory (hence accuracy) especially at very long ranges.

But then again if you can get better BBs that doesn't have imperfections then why not anyway.

 

[Leo Greer]

I mean I'd be surprised if the BB's internal consistency (bubbles/off-centered material) wouldn't affect the hop and consistency of the BB, but exactly how large will that affect things is something I wondered. Turbulences, FPS fluctuations or inconsistent winds probably would have a bigger effect to your BB trajectory (hence accuracy) especially at very long ranges.

Had a beautiful windless game day down here in the USA—that’s when it really shows who’s using good BBs and who’s using bad ones. You’re right overall, and that was the question I wondered; how big of a difference do bubbles actually make?

 

[Plazmaburn]

I might still have some bls bio .30g in some of my mags. Ill have to look

 

[Leo Greer]

This evening I hope to test:

Valken bios .20 and .25

BLS .32 bio

G&G .30 regular

Madbull .36

and maybe some randos like Lancer Craptical .20s.

 

[SiliconeSword]

I've got some EMG .28g and .32g non bio in the mail, should be in whenever the sun explodes, and maybe in a few months some ProSlick .40g too.

 

[zynomicon]

Heavier BBs not having bubbles could be just as much a byproduct -- it's just more economical to use as much plastic as possible instead of metal dust, making the BBs more dense, rather than it being better QC. Checking the QC of various manufacturers might be easier through checking their lower weight BBs.

Another brilliant thread though! Love this place.

 

[SiliconeSword]

That's what I think now, but I'm curious about cheap .40g and .43g, the ones that have the occasional visible seam.

in lighter weights it does seem like bubbles are a huge downfall, but for heavy weights I'd wager that the roundness is what separates the good from the bad. I haven't tried many heavy brands, just BLS and one bottle of Novritsch .36g, as BLS is my cheapest option.

My best accuracy ever was in fact with BLS .36g non bio a few years ago, so next time I shop on Amped I'll be sure to grab some.

 

[Leo Greer]

Okay boys, I finally got around to cracking open what I had on hand.

I did: Valken .20g, G&G .25g and .30g, Madbull Ultimate Stainless .36g, Lancer Tactical .20g, BLS .32 non-bio, some rando “Metal-Tac” .20g from who knows where, and then some of those crappy green bio suckers you buy at Academy here in the USA.

Interestingly, some BBs were significantly harder than others when pressure was applied, and I’m tempted to relate it to performance. For example, despite the lack of any bubbles really and what looks to be exceptional grain and internal consistency, the Madbull .36g shoot like literal crap. They were so hard it was almost impossible to crack them without them slipping out of my wire cutters. On the other hand, I absolutely love shooting the G&G .30g, and they almost squished beneath the cutters. No clue what this means, but I’ll list whether the BB was soft or hard with the picture.

The internal consistency appears to be impressive for the price, but despite the lack of bubbles, these shoot like absolute crap. I have a friend who was using these, who then borrowed some of my .25s, and reported having “double the range”. Exaggeration? Yes. Are they still crap? Also yes. These were medium hardness, but felt like cracking eggshells.

Not as soft as the .30g, but not particularly hard either. These appear very consistent internally with no bubbles. I’ve never actually shot these, as I just got them in from Amazon, so I’ll have to report back later on performance.

Very consistent, very soft, no bubbles, and shoot really well. I get so much more range out of these than out of the BLS equivalent.

I didn’t love how these shot, but they’re not bad. Now that I know I still have a bag, they’ll probably be fed into my assault M4 as slightly higher quality than the typical .25s. Harder than the G&G, softer than the others.

Our first bubble! Honestly, I’ve never shot these except to chrono. These, the “Metal-Tac” BBs, and the green Academy suckers are the only ones that are made in china—everything else is Taiwan.

Decent for .20s, but honestly haven’t shot these since my Lancer Tactical was still stock! I remember them not shooting so well, but since the gun was absolute crap, I don’t think I can blame the BBs. Medium-high hardness.

One tiny hole in one of these suckers. These were incredibly hard, and shoot like crap. They’re also magnetic, which leads me to believe they used iron or steel powder to weight these. Interestingly enough, if you look very closely, you can make out crystal structure among the fine-grained plastic. These appeared the most internally consistent of any of the BBs, though that may be due to the very clean break lines.

And finally the “Metal-Tac” China BBs. No, these are not good. You should already know that. These are chrono BBs, grenade BBs, and throw-to-kill BBs only.

 

[Cripplegunner]

Those .49g look whiter than .48g, at least if the picture is correct.

@Cripplegunner can you crack open some Accuracy International ASG .48g BBs? You said they were really good and stuff, and I wanna see what they look like.

It was not easy to crack the AI ASG's - I used a hammer and "killed" some 0.48's. I still insist that they are real deal ;-)

 

[Leo Greer]

Got my Bushido .30g in the mail. Evike screwed up the shipping, so it’s taken a little while, but they’re here now. I tried some out quickly in an assault style build with a stabilized hop setup, but the results didn’t seem very impressive. The build I used is optimized for .25g, though, so it’s very possible I need a different setup in order to get accuracy out of these.

Setup tested: Arcturus NY06 w/ 50% cylinder + 265mm 6.02mm inner barrel w/ PDI W-hold 50 degree + PDI 190% spring. 20g piston and fully stabilized barrel group. FPS consistency: ~1 FPS

Results: shots hooked both right and left significantly.

Diagnosis: either my piston need to be heavier and isn’t providing enough oomph, or my barrel needs to be longer to allow the BBs to stabilize more. It is at least possible that it’s the BBs’ fault, but some part of me thinks it’s more likely another factor; no way G&G .25g outshoot Bushido .30g flat out.

 

[SiliconeSword]

EMG .32g non bio. Shoots 6/10
One singular off center bubble, easy to crack

BLS .30g non bio. Shoots 5/10.
Pretty serious groups of little bubbles with a rather large one here and there. Pretty dang hard to crack.

EMG .28g non bio. Shoots 4.5/10.
Large bubbles comprised of many small bubbles by the looks of things. Medium easy to crack.

 

[Leo Greer]

Interesting differences in consistency on those EMG suckers.

 

[SiliconeSword]

Yeah, I think that the factory they use must need to try harder to get heavy weights out of whatever plastic. I've used some .30g of theirs, but if I were to sort through my bottles of used BBs (yes, I save catch box BBs) I'd probably find plenty, but there's no telling them from any other BB even if I weighed them.
I tend to get the cheapest heaviest stuff these days, which EMG fits the role of quite well. I will be getting some Tippman .32g at some point, but I've probably got 40-50K of assault weight BBs on hand, so that may be a little while.

 

[Doctor Jest]

Going to grab some of these......I had no idea they were developed in conjunction with Clarence Lai (who incidentally also lists a wide array of temperature ranges for his green gas - far more than anyone else!!)

Bushido Premium BBs - 0.28g by CL Project Design

Clarence Lai Project Design was created by the man himself Clarence, ‘AKA the Airsoft Surgeon’ who for many years has created high quality airsoft parts. Clarence has also created bespoke custom guns, collaborated with other companies to created limited edition products and even helped organise...

www.airsoftanonymous.co.uk

Got some Nov .28s as well.

 

[Leo Greer]

Bushido may soon be my BB of choice. I have .30g, and I have .25g on order. All I need is time to test.

 

[Lightf4ng]

Nice write up. I wish you could get "exact" bb brand. The finish is smoother than bls

 

[Leo Greer]

Couple of field test arbitrary results... Bushido .25g are pretty nice. But, y'know what's just as nice? Krytac .25g. I haven't done any testing on windless days, so this is still just my experience, but I seemed to hit just as many long distance shots with the Krytac ammo as with the Bushido ammo. Haven't cracked either open yet...