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I agree, I think that this thing needs a little more time in the oven so to speak. I really like the innovation and I am wanting to support companies that take risks to break the mold to move the sport forward. But it's hard to justify the price tag when there are things that I would expect to be non-issues on a replica at half the price. If I got this gun I would shim it before I even pulled the trigger by the sounds of it. I also shouldn't have to fabricate body shims on a gun out of the box.
 
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Haha yes. He hates it.......

The bevel gear doesn't mesh properly with the motor pinion and the one solution I've seen is to take 1-1.5mm from the rear of the gear to allow you to shim it properly.

Edit: He shimmed it and it still misfeeds.


SO VERY GLAD I gave this one a miss after all my initial enthusiasm. I think I'm going for an SVU and keeping it under 350fps.......
 
The fact that you have to fix it almost guarantees I’ll never own one.
All these guys are also raving about how Silverback does a great job about taking critique on the chin and then making it better. I hope a revision is on the horizon to make it better. I did see a video about the performance of the platform and he said it was quite good out of the box. If I can find it again I'll link it here
 
All these guys are also raving about how Silverback does a great job about taking critique on the chin and then making it better. I hope a revision is on the horizon to make it better. I did see a video about the performance of the platform and he said it was quite good out of the box. If I can find it again I'll link it here
For everyone’s sake I hope you’re right. Unfortunately there’s nothing subtle about what they got wrong—you can tell as soon as you pick it up and pull the trigger. Silverback knew it was bad when they put it out. Hopefully they work it out in later versions.
 
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Luke mentioned that all the feedback from himself and, I think, Jaeger Precision, both went straight to Silverback from Jason (Longbow) so hopefully there will be a Gen2 with a more correctly sized bevel gear and more substantial handguards. Other than those two issues, it has been remarkably free from concerns overall......
 
It would be nice if there was a jumper or dip switch to disable active breaking as well for gen 2 for people who wanted to use brushless motors
Honestly one thing that doesn't cease to amaze me is how...rudimentary the ETU appears to be. Wire jumpers and separate trigger boards? The fact that the ETU isn't programmable on the fly like a Perun or Gate when Double Eagle can put a Titan clone in a $180 SMG is actually beyond me. For $600 in 2023 I do expect a programmable etu that doesn't require jumpers
 
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Might be a concession towards the fact that with separate boards you literally can't use it on full auto with DMR power levels - which again, is a mandatory feature on some sites. That said, YES would it be so bad to include a GATE or Perun?
 
I figure it's some concession towards that, however I know of a lot of guns with ETUs that either come software or mechanically locked to semi only.

My point was just that I would expect some programmability of the ETU at that price point. Especially when things like active breaking are enabled by default.
 
The option is What’s nice… give us the option to have a Perun for more money. Like What Arcturus does with their AK12 models.

The AK12PE is what this should’ve been, in terms of gearbox insides at least. That rifle is JACKED for a stock gun…
 
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The option is What’s nice… give us the option to have a Perun for more money. Like What Arcturus does with their AK12 models.

The AK12PE is what this should’ve been, in terms of gearbox insides at least. That rifle is JACKED for a stock gun…
To be honest, the AK12PE is even more expensive over here than the MDR-X is.........so perhaps not quite stock ;-)
 
Just a heads up - Silverback fixed most of these issues in newer models, and for anyone up to the serial number they started doing such, there's a free kit (+$ for S&H iirc) to retrofit all the changes. Apparently it's no longer a smouldering dumpster fire now.
 
Do you know the means in which they fixed the issues? I know some were fit-and-finish concerns but I also know there was a lot of stuff going on with the way some things were designed.
 
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